Sunday, November 26, 2023

A German Antisemite Prayed for This


Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: A German Antisemite Prayed for This · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: I think one should take a look at this, and hear carefully · Commenting on Fr. JM and Kennedy Hall

No, not the guys who had just committed a pogrom near like Constance.*

I mean a man of the Church who told them, "you can't do this, it is sinful" ...

And the prayer was heard:

An American Tail (1986) - There Are No Cats In America Scene (2/10) | Movieclips
Movieclips, 25 March 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQMtp2WxEA4


He was basically saying, "well, as we can't really hope they'll be very good Christians" (what an Antisemitic thing to say!), "let's pray for them to get a country across the sea ..."

Fiat Mouskevitch, et Mouskevitch factus est./HGL

* I think this link would be the correct one, but cannot verify, since I was blocked:

On February 22, 1349, the Jews of Schaffhausen were rounded up and burned to death as part of the Black Plague persecution, in which the Jews were accused of ...


Schaffhausen Massacre: Most Up-to-Date Encyclopedia, ...
https://academic-accelerator.com/encyclopedia/schaffhausen-massacre


This happened when I tried to click:

This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data.

Wednesday, November 22, 2023

This is not one of the last Scandinavians I Like, as by Personal Affection


But she is definitely one of the last Scandinavians I know by name and of which I wholeheartedly approve.

CHRISTINA OF MILAN: the girl who escaped Henry VIII. European royal history documentary. Royal women
History Calling | 13 Jan. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLgNiktAcmE


God rest her soul, if she still needs it, and if not, let her dispose of my prayer if it have any merit!/HGL

PS, Nordic, not really Scandinavian, except as ruler of, since she was Danish and not from Scania./HGL

No, Churchill was not THAT guy


W 87  L 76  S 83  C 67  562
I 73  E 69  P 80  H 72  517
N 78  O 79  E 69  U 85  528
S 83  N 78  N 78  R 82  670
T 84  A 65  C 67  C 67
O 79  R 82  E 69  H 72
N 78  D 68  R 82  I 73
      L 76
      L 76
562  517  528  670  2277


What if we add spaces? 2277  2373  2849
Or lower case in given names? 0096  0576  0256
Or last name too? 2373  2849  3105


As I have previously stated, using ASCII for gematria is not likely to damn all and everyone just because you look at their name. I mean of course the name with the gematria mentioned in Apocalypse 13:18.

Even for those who have that gematria, that's not necessarily damning. On the other hand, if you find it in a politician or religious leader or big businessman, look out for whether what he's up to seems legit or not. There is one role, the Antichrist, perhaps two roles, the Antichrist and the False Prophet, who need this number in their gematria (I'm glad I don't have it!) and there are currently four people who have that gematria on the world scene, in ASCII:

  • Vladimir Putin has it in three gematrias ("WLADIMIRA", "VLADIMIRB", "V POUTINE")
  • Bergoglio in one (take that name and use only upper case letters)
  • a president of the US ("JRBIDENJR")
  • any male king of either England or Scotland after ASCII was invented ("ENGELSMAN", "skotte"; a ruling Queen would be an "ENGELSKA" or a "skotska" which also do not so add up).


What's up with "V POUTINE" and "VLADIMIRB"? Doesn't seem to mean anything?

"V. POUTINE" would be an initial and name of his in French. The dot or stop is in French called a point, so "V POUTINE" would incur that gematria by doing something point-less in a French speaking country.

"VLADIMIRB" would indeed mean nothing if you dissolve it as "Vladimirb". But what about "Vladimir B" = "Vladimir II"? Ah, we are talking. In his family-line he is the second known Vladimir (his father and grandfather are the only known ones before him, and only the father, not the grandfather, are named Vladimir). In all the history of Muscovy, even going back to Suzdal, he is the second ruler to be named Vladimir, the first one being Lenin. All Vladimirs in any Rus' before that, before the Russian Revolution, were in for instance Kyiv—and are more properly speaking referred to as Volodymyrs. Not in Suzdal or Vladimir-Suzdal (perhaps because they wanted to avoid being confused with their city) or in Moscow, or in Tver either. Nor any Czar. Only, first Lenin, now Putin./HGL

PS, 2849 is related to that number as a significant fraction, 77/18. Not sure that means anything./HGL

Sunday, November 19, 2023

You know your Great-Grandfather? You know you are better off than he?


Which one of them? You have one father, two grand-fathers, four great-grandfathers. I know two of mine, though I never met them.

Do you know your great-great-grandfather? You have 8 of those, so do I, and I know one, whom I also never met.

I bet you don't know your great-grandfather's great-grandfather (any of the 32) or such a one's great-grandfather (any of the 128). Neither do I.

But Charles III of the United Kingdom knows his great-grandfather's great-grandfather (on a purely paternal line) was Friedrich Karl Ludwig, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck.

Or if you prefer, Frederick Charles Lewis. (20 August 1757 – 24 April 1816)*

Friedrich Karl Ludwig was born in Königsberg, Kingdom of Prussia. At the age of two he lost his father who died from wounds he received in the battle of Kundersdorf. He joined the Prussian Army in 1777 upon the request of King Frederick the Great. By 1781 he was a staff officer in the Regiment von Schlieben and by 1787 he commanded a grenadier battalion based in Königsberg. He assisted in the suppression of the 1794 Kościuszko Uprising and was Governor of Kraków in 1795. He retired from Prussian service as a lieutenant general in 1797 and spent the rest of his life improving agriculture in Holstein. He died in Wellingsbüttel Manor, now part of Hamburg.


And he knows that one's greatgrandfather (also purely paternal) was Frederick Lewis, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck. (6 April 1653 – 7 March 1728)**

He was only the titular duke, because he did not inherit the domain of Beck. It had been inherited by Duke Frederick William I, the son of his elder brother, Duke August, in 1689.[1] Duke Frederick William I was killed in the Battle of Francavilla in Sicily in 1719, leaving a widow, née Marie Antoine called Antoinette Josepha Isnardi di Castello, Contessa di Sanfré (1692–1762), and two minor daughters.[1] Maria Antonia shared administration of Beck with her mother-in-law, Duchess Hedwig Louisa of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck (née Countess of Lippe-Bückeburg-Schaumburg).

In 1671 Frederick Louis became a cornet in the cavalry regiment von Eller in the army of Brandenburg-Prussia. In 1675 he participated in the Battle of Fehrbellin as a Rittmeister. The following year he was a colonel in the Holstein dragoons. Frederick Lewis was named lieutenant general and Governor of Wesel in 1690. Three years later he was appointed commanding general of the Duchy of Prussia.

On 17 January 1701 Frederick Lewis received the Order of the Black Eagle from the new King Frederick I of Prussia and shortly afterward was named Statthalter of the Kingdom of Prussia and Governor of Königsberg. During the War of the Spanish Succession, he participated in the Battle of Oudenarde in 1708, the Battle of Malplaquet in 1709, and the sieges of Lille, Mons, and Tournai. Frederick Louis was promoted to field marshal in 1713. The duke also secured neutrality for Prussia during much of the Great Northern War. He died in Königsberg and was buried alongside his wife in Königsberg Cathedral.


For his great-grand-mother's great-grand-mother, purely feminine line, he knows it is one Frances Webb. She has no wikipage, but her daughter Anne Caroline Salisbury (1805 – 3 May 1881) has.

So, you happen to know that one of your great-grand-fathers was worse off than you, materially? But are you sure he was better off than all of his own great-grand-fathers? Or than theirs? I am not.

So, progress has done your family good on the line of one great-grandfather up to yourself. Congratulations. But that doesn't mean progress never hurt your family. I am pretty sure it has on occasion hurt mine.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Felix of Valois
20.XI.2023

Sancti Felicis Valesii, Presbyteri et Confessoris, qui Ordinis sanctissimae Trinitatis redemptionis captivorum exstitit Fundator, ac pridie Nonas Novembris obdormivit in Domino.

PS can Tolkien have had some kind of help from this line, since he came from Prussia by family? Or ABBA, because they like Bouzouki?/HGL

* The one footnote cited by wiki in the passage is:
Albinus, Robert (1985). Lexikon der Stadt Königsberg Pr. und Umgebung (in German). Leer: Verlag Gerhard Rautenberg. p. 371. ISBN 3-7921-0320-6.
** The three footnotes of this other passage are:
Huberty, Michel; Alain Giraud; F. and B. Magdelaine (1994). L'Allemagne Dynastique Tome VII Oldenbourg (in French). France. pp. 79, 97, 118, 141. ISBN 2-901138-07-1.
Albinus, Robert (1985). Lexikon der Stadt Königsberg Pr. und Umgebung (in German). Leer: Verlag Gerhard Rautenberg. p. 371. ISBN 3-7921-0320-6.
Th. Hirsch (1878), "Friedrich Ludwig, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Beck", Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie (ADB) (in German), vol. 8, Leipzig: Duncker & Humblot, p. 284

Saturday, November 18, 2023

"Most Enlightenment Thinkers Were Christians"


New blog on the kid: Swedes are Not Likely to be Anti-Black Racists · What Do I Mean by Fascist? · Φιλολoγικά / Philologica: "Most Enlightenment Thinkers Were Christians"

Quoted from an Andrew also nicknamed "Big Papa Fascist" ...

Some of the major figures of the Enlightenment included Cesare Beccaria, Denis Diderot, David Hume, Immanuel Kant, Montesquieu, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Adam Smith, Hugo Grotius, and Voltaire.


Let's take the list.

Cesare Beccaria,
believed in preferring long and drawn out humiliation over death penalty in peace time, and death penalty for potential figureheads of counter-revolutions in the case of being in a revolutionary situation—both of which principles were applied in the same order when Robespierre failed in abolishing death penalty and succeeded in getting King Lewis XVI and the Queen Marie Antoinette to the Guillotine. But what about his beliefs?

In his mid-twenties, Beccaria became close friends with Pietro and Alessandro Verri, two brothers who with a number of other young men from the Milan aristocracy, formed a literary society named "L'Accademia dei pugni" (the Academy of Fists), a playful name which made fun of the stuffy academies that proliferated in Italy and also hinted that relaxed conversations which took place in there sometimes ended in affrays. Much of its discussion focused on reforming the criminal justice system. Through this group Beccaria became acquainted with French and British political philosophers, such as Diderot, Helvétius, Montesquieu, and Hume. He was particularly influenced by Helvétius.


1/9 Non-Christian.

Denis Diderot,
was a notorious Atheist and materialist, like Helvétius. In ethics, he was promoting the attack on chastity.

2/9 Non-Christians.

David Hume,
claimed that miracles could never be verified, since any non-miraculous explanation would be more likely (any—no matter how unlikely, let that sink in).

3/9 Non-Christians.

Immanuel Kant,
apart from being influenced by Hume, claimed that the numinous was never incarnated in the phenomenal. A pretty direct rejection of the incarnation, and obviously of miracles. He contributed very much to the kind of not very Christian Protestantism which was the major religious support of Hitler, even before the NS religion itself.

4/9 Non-Christians.

Montesquieu,
was a Catholic living in a mixed marriage, and was buried in St. Sulpice. But his ideas on society sound more deterministics than actually Christian (he had Huguenot ancestry).

Another example of Montesquieu's anthropological thinking, outlined in The Spirit of Law and hinted at in Persian Letters, is his meteorological climate theory, which holds that climate may substantially influence the nature of man and his society, a theory also promoted by the French naturalist Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon. By placing an emphasis on environmental influences as a material condition of life, Montesquieu prefigured modern anthropology's concern with the impact of material conditions, such as available energy sources, organized production systems, and technologies, on the growth of complex socio-cultural systems.

He goes so far as to assert that certain climates are more favorable than others, the temperate climate of France being ideal. His view is that people living in very warm countries are "too hot-tempered", while those in northern countries are "icy" or "stiff". The climate of middle Europe is therefore optimal. On this point, Montesquieu may well have been influenced by a similar pronouncement in The Histories of Herodotus, where he makes a distinction between the "ideal" temperate climate of Greece as opposed to the overly cold climate of Scythia and the overly warm climate of Egypt. This was a common belief at the time, and can also be found within the medical writings of Herodotus' times, including the "On Airs, Waters, Places" of the Hippocratic corpus. One can find a similar statement in Germania by Tacitus, one of Montesquieu's favorite authors.


It is however not a specifically Christian belief, Herodotus and Hippocrates not being Christians, nor was Tacitus.

1/9 Christian.

Jean-Jacques Rousseau,
was a man who went back and forth between Catholicism and Protestantism. But yes, he was a Christian. Even if he was personally more interested in his love life.

2/9 Christians.

Adam Smith,
According to wiki, this is very debatable and indeed unknown.

1/9 ???

Hugo Grotius,
Definitely a Christian, but chronologically before the other "Enlightenment Thinkers" ... I would tend to place Grotius, Pascal, Décartes in the category of "Pre-Enlightenment" as much as I place Rousseau in the category of "Pre-Romanticism" ... but yes, if you include the Pre-Enlightenment, which apart from Grotius was not done on the list, then suddenly a majority are Christians.

3/9 Christians.

and Voltaire
Deist, anti-Catholic, anti-Christian.

5/9 Non-Christians.


As said, I make a difference between Enlightenment and Pre-Enlightenment. I would put the limit in Isaac Newton. Funny enough, for wikipedians who seem to make the same distinction, they included Hugo Grotius into Enlightenment rather than Pre-Enlightenment.

The Age of Enlightenment was preceded by and closely associated with the Scientific Revolution.[16] Earlier philosophers whose work influenced the Enlightenment included Francis Bacon, René Descartes, Thomas Hobbes, Baruch Spinoza, John Locke, Pierre Bayle, and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz.[17][18] Some of the major figures of the Enlightenment included Cesare Beccaria, Denis Diderot, David Hume, Immanuel Kant, Montesquieu, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Adam Smith, Hugo Grotius, and Voltaire.[19]


Age of Enlightenment
a linea Important intellectuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment#Important_intellectuals


Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Dedication of St. Peter's
18.XI.2023

Wednesday, November 15, 2023

La postérité d'une Marguerite de Genève


Marguerite de Genève
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marguerite_de_Gen%C3%A8ve


Marguerite [Béatrice/Béatrix, Nicole], dont la date de naissance reste inconnue, serait la fille de Guillaume Ier, comte de Genève ... Marguerite [Béatrice/Béatrix] épouse, vers 1196, le comte Thomas Ier de Savoie et devient, par son mariage, comtesse de Savoie.

Béatrice (ou Béatrix) de Savoie, née vers 1198 et morte entre 1265 et 1267, au château du Menuet (Les Échelles, commune de l'actuel département de la Savoie), est une princesse issue de la Maison de Savoie, comtesse de Provence par mariage avec Raimond Bérenger IV. — Ainsi, le comte Thomas Ier donne Béatrice en mariage le 5 juin 12196 à Raimond Bérenger IV, comte de Provence. Elle a 20 ans et son époux termine sa quatorzième année.

Marguerite de Provence, née en 1221 en Provence et morte le 21 décembre 1295 à Paris, fille du comte de Provence Raimond-Bérenger V, est reine de France de 1234 à 1270 à la suite de son mariage avec Louis IX (1214-1270), devenu roi en 1226 et canonisé en 1297. — Le 27 mai 1234, le mariage a lieu dans la cathédrale de Sens. Sont présents les grands du royaume, dont Blanche de Castille, Robert et Alphonse, frères du roi, Alphonse de Portugal, cousin du roi, ainsi que des nobles, et des dames de la suite de Marguerite.

Isabelle de France, née le 2 mars 1242, morte à Hyères le 27 avril 1271, est reine de Navarre et comtesse de Champagne. C'est la fille de Louis IX de France et de Marguerite de Provence. — L'archevêque de Rouen Eudes II Rigaud a célébré le mariage entre Isabelle, fille du roi de France, et Thibaud II, roi de Navarre et comte de Champagne, le 6 avril 1255 à Melun. Thibaud avait 18 ans et Isabelle 13 ans.

Blanche de France, née en 1253 à Jaffa et morte vers 1320 à Paris, fille du roi de France Louis IX, devient en 1268 l'épouse de l'infant Ferdinand (1255-1275), héritier présomptif du roi de Castille Alphonse X (1221-1284). — Le 30 novembre 1268, elle épouse à Burgos le prince héritier de Castille, l'infant Ferdinand (par la suite dénommé Ferdinand de la Cerda). Elle reçoit le prédicat d'infante.

Marguerite de France, née en 1254, morte le 12 juillet 1271, fille de Saint-Louis, roi de France et de Marguerite de Provence. — Elle épousa en février 1269 Jean Ier le Victorieux (1253 † 1294), duc de Brabant et de Limbourg.

Agnès de France, née vers 1260 ou 1265, morte le 19 décembre 1325 à Lantenay, est une princesse capétienne française, dernière fille du roi Louis IX, dit Saint Louis, et de Marguerite de Provence, devenue duchesse de Bourgogne par son mariage avec le duc Robert II. — Dernière fille de Louis IX, dit saint Louis, roi de France et de son épouse Marguerite de Provence, Agnès est mariée en 1273 à Robert II, duc de Bourgogne (1248-1306).

Blanche de Bourgogne, morte à Dijon le 28 juillet 1348, est une princesse de la Maison capétienne de Bourgogne, fille de Robert II, duc de Bourgogne. Par mariage avec le comte Édouard de Savoie, elle devient comtesse de Savoie. — La date de naissance est inconnue, toutefois l'année 1288 est parfois donnée comme point de repère. — Le mariage est célébré le 17 octobre 1307 au château de Montbard, en Bourgogne.

Jeanne de Savoie, morte à Vincennes le 29 juin 1344, est une noble issue de la maison de Savoie, qui par mariage devient duchesse de Bretagne de 1330 à 1341, et est prétendante au comté de Savoie de 1329 à 1339. — Sa date de naissance est inconnue. L'année de 1310 est donnée comme point de repère. — Nièce par alliance du roi Philippe VI de France, elle épouse le 21 mars 1329, à Chartres, après l'obtention d'une dispense pour parenté et affinité au troisième degré, le duc Jean III de Bretagne, comte de Richmond, veuf de ses deux premières épouses.

Marguerite de Bourgogne (v. 1290 – Château-Gaillard, 30 avril 1315) est reine de Navarre et de France par son mariage avec le roi Louis X le Hutin. — Le mariage par contrat de Marguerite avec Louis, fils aîné du roi de France Philippe IV le Bel et de la reine de Navarre Jeanne Ire, est négocié successivement à l'abbaye de Longchamp le 28 février 1300, puis à Vincennes le 28 mars 1301. Le 23 septembre 1305, à Corbeil, Marguerite épouse formellement Louis, devenu roi de Navarre le 2 avril précédent sous le nom de Louis Ier.

Jeanne II (28 janvier 1312 – 6 octobre 1349) est reine de Navarre de 1328 à sa mort. Elle est la seule enfant de Louis X de France et de Marguerite de Bourgogne. — Le 18 juin 1318, Jeanne épouse Philippe III d'Évreux, prince de sang royal français, fils de Louis d'Évreux — oncle de Louis X — et de Marguerite d'Artois. Mariée au château du Séjour du Roy à Charenton, elle y habite jusqu'à sa mort. — Une dispense papale est nécessaire pour le mariage de Jeanne et de Philippe d'Évreux, car Jeanne a à peine 7 ans au moment des noces. Le mariage entre Jeanne de Navarre et Philippe d'Évreux est célébré le 18 juin 1318.

Marie de Navarre ou Marie d'Évreux, née vers 1329 et morte le 29 avril 1347 à Valence, est une infante de Navarre, devenue reine d'Aragon de 1338 à 1347 par mariage avec le roi Pierre IV d'Aragon le Cérémonieux. — Fille des souverains Philippe III de Navarre et Jeanne II de Navarre, elle épouse le 25 juillet 1338 à Alagón Pierre IV le Cérémonieux, roi d'Aragon, dont elle devient la première femme. Alors âgée de dix ans, le mariage ne sera consommé que quelques années plus tard.

Constance Perez ou Constance d'Aragon et de Navarre (Poblet, 1343 † Catane, juillet 1363), princesse d'Aragon et reine consort de Sicile, est la première épouse de Frédéric III le simple, roi de Sicile. — Le 15 avril 1361, Constance épouse à Catane Frédéric III le simple, roi de Sicile, fils de Pierre II de Sicile et d'Elisabeth de Carinthie.

Marie Ire, reine de Sicile, est née le 2 juillet 1363 à Catane et décédée le 25 mai 1401 à Lentini. De la maison de Barcelone à la fois du côté paternel et du côté maternel, elle était la fille et héritière du roi Frédéric III de Sicile (1342-1377) et de son épouse l'infante Constance (1344-1363), fille de Pierre IV d'Aragon. — En 1380, Pierre IV donna la vicairerie de l'île à son fils l'infant Martin d'Aragon, dont Marie épousa en 1390 le fils, un autre Martin d'Aragon (1375-1409), dit « le Jeune ».

Jeanne d'Aragon (7 novembre 1344-1385 1) est le deuxième enfant de Pierre IV d'Aragon et de sa première épouse Marie de Navarre. Membre de la Maison de Barcelone, elle est infante d'Aragon de naissance et comtesse d'Ampurias par son mariage. — Le 19 juin 1373, Jeanne épouse Jean Ier, comte d'Ampurias. C'était son deuxième mariage après la mort de sa première épouse Blanche de Sicile. Jeanne avait vingt-neuf ans au moment de son mariage, elle était à l'époque considérée comme une mariée âgée. Le couple, marié pendant douze ans, a deux fils...

Blanche de Navarre, ou Blanche d'Évreux, née vers 1331 et morte le 5 octobre 1398 à Neaufles-Saint-Martin, est reine de France du 29 janvier au 22 août 1350 en tant qu'épouse de Philippe VI de Valois. — Le 29 janvier 1350, Blanche de Navarre épouse à Brie-Comte-Robert le roi de France Philippe VI de Valois, qui a perdu le mois précédent sa première épouse, Jeanne de Bourgogne. Initialement destinée à son fils Jean, duc de Normandie, Blanche subjugue le souverain, de quarante ans son aîné, et passe alors pour la plus belle princesse de son temps, ce qui explique son surnom de « Belle Sagesse ».

(Jeanne de France, née en mai 1351 et morte le 16 septembre 1371 à Béziers, est le seul enfant du roi Philippe VI de Valois et de sa seconde épouse Blanche de Navarre. — Par acte du 16 juillet 1370, elle la promet au futur Jean Ier d'Aragon. Cependant, Jeanne meurt prématurément le 16 septembre 1371 à Béziers, alors qu'elle se rend à Perpignan pour le mariage.)

Agnès de Navarre, née en 1334 et morte le 4 février 1396, est une infante de Navarre et comtesse consort de Foix (1349-1391). — Le 5 juillet 1349, elle épouse à Paris Gaston III de Foix-Béarn, comte de Foix.

Jeanne de Navarre ou Jeanne d'Évreux, née en 1339 et morte en 1403, est une infante de Navarre, devenue vicomtesse de Rohan de 1377 à 1396 par son mariage avec Jean Ier de Rohan. — En septembre 1376, enfin, Jeanne de Navarre devient la seconde épouse de Jean Ier de Rohan, l'un des principaux seigneurs du duché de Bretagne. De son mariage avec Jean Ier de Rohan est issu un fils unique ...

Jeanne de Bourgogne (vers 1293 – 12 décembre 1349), parfois surnommée Jeanne la Boiteuse, devient, par son mariage avec le futur roi Philippe VI de Valois, reine de France de 1328 à 1349. Elle est aussi la mère du roi Jean II le Bon. — Le mariage entre Jeanne de Bourgogne et Philippe de Valois n'a lieu que dix ans plus tard, à la fin juillet 1313, au château de Fontainebleau.

Marie de Bourgogne, née vers 1298 et morte entre 1323 et 1336, fille de Robert II, duc de Bourgogne, devient comtesse de Bar par son mariage avec le comte Édouard Ier de Bar. — Elle épouse à Montbard le 11 février 1310 Édouard Ier de Bar (1295 † 1336), comte de Bar, et eut ...


Après Marie de Bourgogne une discussion s'impose. Elle avait deux filles mariées, les cadettes d'un Henri IV de Bar sur lequel je peux lire qu'il est "né entre 1315 et 1320," ce qui laisse comme terminus a quo pour Aliénor entre 1316 et 1321 et pour Béatrice entre 1317 et 1322.

Aliénor († 1332); mariée en 1330 avec Raoul († 1346), duc de Lorraine. — Raoul épouse en premières noces à Pont-à-Mousson en 1329 Aliénor de Bar († 1332), fille d'Édouard Ier, comte de Bar, et de Marie de Bourgogne.


Ce qui donne, âge maximal, elle est née en 1316 et le mariage a lieu en 1330, 14 ans. Pour le minimum, le mariage a lieu en 1329 et elle est née en 1321. Compte haute, encore une fille mariée à 14, compte basse, encore une des rares filles mariées à 8.

Beatrice di Bar (1310 circa – Mantova, 1350 circa) è stata una nobile francese. — Era la figlia terzogenita di Edoardo I di Bar, conte di Bar e di Maria di Borgogna. — Sposò in terze nozze nel 1340 Guido Gonzaga, signore di Mantova che aveva sei figli: 1) Ugolino Gonzaga (1320 – 13 October 1362) ...


Ceci est obviement faux. Si elle est née en 1310 (déjà faux) et mariée en 1340, pour les deux raisons elle ne va pas avoir un premier fils né en 1320. Il me paraît donc un peu dubieux qu'elle soit la mère de Margherita Gonzaga, mariée en 1353 à Jacopino da Carrara. Je ne donne donc pas de statistiques pour Béatrice de Bar, non plus que pour Marguérite Béatrice de Genève.

Je continue à partir de la suivante dans ma liste de postérité ligne féminine de celle-ci.

Éléonore de Provence (en anglais Eleanor of Provence) ou Aliénor de Provence, née vers 1223 à Aix-en-Provence et morte le 26 juin 1291 en l'abbaye d'Amesbury, est une princesse de Provence. Elle devient reine d'Angleterre du fait de son mariage avec Henri III d'Angleterre. Elle est considérée bienheureuse par l'Église catholique. — Guillaume de Savoie, évêque de Valence, prépare le mariage de sa nièce, Éléonore avec le roi d’Angleterre, Henri III. Le contrat de mariage est signé en 1235. Éléonore se rend, accompagnée de nobles, dont son oncle Pierre de Savoie, en Angleterre pour rencontrer son futur époux. Le mariage est célébré dans la cathédrale de Canterbury le 14 janvier 1236. — En 1273, elle accorde une nouvelle Charte à l'hôpital St Katharine's (en). En 1291, elle fonde le monastère de Guildford Black Friary (en) (comté de Surrey).Elle devient ainsi célèbre par sa piété, et elle est connue sous le nom de Sainte Éléonore, bien qu'elle ait seulement été béatifiée et non canonisée. On la fête en juillet ou le 25 juin.

Marguerite d'Angleterre (29 septembre 1240 - 26 février 1275) est la fille aînée d'Henri III d'Angleterre et d'Éléonore de Provence. — Elle est promise à Alexandre III d'Écosse, en 1244, à l'âge de quatre ans. Le mariage n'a lieu que le 26 décembre 1251, à York. La dot de Marguerite s'élève alors à 5 000 marcs d'argent.

Marguerite d'Écosse, née le 28 février 1261 au château de Windsor et morte le 9 avril 1283, est la fille du roi Alexandre III d'Écosse et de Marguerite d'Angleterre. Mariée en 1281 avec le roi Éric II de Norvège, elle est reine de Norvège de 1281 à 1283.

Béatrice d'Angleterre (25 juin 1242 à Bordeaux - † 24 mars 1275 à Londres) est une princesse d'Angleterre et l'épouse du duc de Bretagne Jean II. Elle est la fille du roi d'Angleterre Henri III Plantagenêt et d'Éléonore de Provence, et la sœur d'Édouard Ier d'Angleterre, de Marguerite d'Angleterre et d'Edmond de Lancastre. — En novembre 1260, à Saint-Denis, elle épouse Jean II de Bretagne (1239-1305), fils de Jean Ier le Roux, duc de Bretagne, et de Blanche de Navarre. Elle lui apporta en dot le comté de Richmond.

Marie de Bretagne (née en 1268 – morte le 5 mai 1339) est comtesse de Saint-Pol par son mariage avec Guy IV de Châtillon-Saint-Pol. Elle est la fille de Jean II de Bretagne et de Béatrice d'Angleterre. — Marie a épousé, le 22 juillet 1292, Guy IV de Châtillon-Saint-Pol, fils de Guy III de Châtillon-Saint-Pol, comte de Saint-Pol, et de Mathilde de Brabant ...

Mahaut de Châtillon, dite de Saint-Pol, née en 1293 et morte le 3 octobre 1358, est la fille de Guy IV de Châtillon-Saint-Pol et de Marie de Bretagne. — Charles de Valois ... Catherine de Courtenay lui ayant cédé ses droits sur le trône de Constantinople, la mort de celle-ci ne rend absolument pas caduques les revendications de Valois sur cet empire. Cependant, remarié depuis juillet 1308 avec Mahaut de Châtillon, le comte cherche à se débarrasser de cette couronne devenue encombrante. Cette dernière revient à Catherine, fille aînée de Charles et de feu Catherine de Courtenay. Celle-ci n'étant qu'une enfant, le comte de Valois s'échine à lui trouver un mari capable de le décharger de cette responsabilité.

Marie de Valois (née en 1309 – morte le 6 décembre 1328 à Naples) est une duchesse consort de Calabre et l'épouse de Charles de Calabre, duc de Calabre. — Marie de Valois épouse à Paris le 11 janvier 1324 Charles d'Anjou, duc de Calabre, fils de Robert Ier, roi de Naples et de Yolande d'Aragon.

Jeanne Ire de Naples, dite la Reine Jeanne, née vers 1326 à Naples, morte le 27 juillet 1382 à Muro Lucano (Naples), assassinée sur ordre de son cousin Charles de Duras. — André de Hongrie ou André Ier de Naples ... Âgé de six ans, il épousa le 13 septembre 1333 Jeanne de Naples, fille de Charles de Calabre et de Marie de Valois, et petite-fille et héritière de Robert le Sage, roi de Naples. Il est titré Prince de Calabre comme représentant de la branche aînée de la dynastie.

Marie de Calabre, dite parfois aussi Marie de Naples, Marie d'Anjou ou Marie de Duras (née le 6 décembre 1328 – morte le 20 mai 1366) est une princesse de Naples. Elle fut l'épouse de Charles, duc de Durazzo. Elle est la fille de Charles de Calabre et de Marie de Valois et la sœur de la reine Jeanne Ire de Naples. — Marie de Calabre épousa en premières noces le 30 avril 1343 son cousin Charles d'Anjou (1323 † 1348), duc de Durazzo ...

Jeanne de Durazzo, duchesse de Durazzo, comtesse de Beaumont puis d'Eu (1344 - 20 juillet 1387), est la fille aînée de Charles de Durazzo et de Marie de Calabre. Elle succède à son père en 1348 alors qu'elle n'a que quatre ans. — En 1365, âgée de vingt et un ans, Jeanne épouse le comte de Beaumont Louis de Navarre, fils de Jeanne II de Navarre. En 1368, Durazzo est conquise par la dynastie albanaise des Topia, dirigée par le seigneur de guerre Karl Thopia. Jeanne et son mari ont immédiatement commencé à planifier la reconquête non seulement de Durazzo, mais également de toutes les terres de l'ancien royaume angevin d'Albanie, conquises par la dynastie bulgare des Sratsimir en 1332.

Agnès de Durazzo (1345 - 10 février 1383), princesse de Tarente et d'Achaïe, est la dernière femme à porter le titre d'impératrice latine de Constantinople. — Elle épouse en premières noces le 5 juin 1363 Cansignorio della Scala, seigneur de Vérone. Le 10 octobre 1375, Cansignorio meurt, possiblement empoisonné.

Marguerite de Durazzo (le 28 juillet 1347 – Acquamela, le 6 août 1412) reine consort de Naples, de Hongrie et de Croatie, princesse d'Achaïe. Elle est l'épouse de Charles III de Naples et régente de ce royaume avant la majorité de son fils. — En février 1369, à l'âge de 22 ans, Marguerite épouse son cousin paternel Charles III de Naples, fils de Louis de Gravina.

Jeanne II de Naples, née le 25 juin 1373 à Zadar, morte le 2 février 1435 à Naples, fut reine de Naples de 1414 à 1435, fille de Charles III, roi de Naples et de Hongrie, et de Marguerite de Durazzo. — Elle épouse, à Vienne en 1401, Guillaume de Habsbourg, fils de Léopold III de Habsbourg, duc de Styrie, et de Viridis Visconti.

Isabelle de Valois, née en 1313, et morte à Paris le 26 juillet 1383, est une duchesse de Bourbon. — En 1337, elle épouse Pierre Ier (1311-1356), duc de Bourbon,

Jeanne de Bourbon, née le 3 février 1338 à Vincennes, morte le 6 février 1378 à Paris, fut reine de France, épouse de Charles V. Elle était fille de Pierre Ier, duc de Bourbon, et d'Isabelle de Valois. — Le 8 avril 1350 à Tain-l'Hermitage, elle épouse le dauphin Charles, petit-fils du roi Philippe VI et fils du roi Jean II. En 1364, à la mort de ce dernier, il lui succède sous le nom de Charles V et Jeanne devient reine de France.

Catherine de France (4 février 1378 - novembre 1388) est la plus jeune fille de Charles V de France et de Jeanne de Bourbon. — Catherine fut mariée à Jean de Berry en 1386, à l'âge de huit ans. Le mariage ne fut pas consommé à cause du jeune âge du couple. Catherine est morte avant l'âge adulte, comme beaucoup de ses frères et sœurs.

Blanche de Bourbon (1339-1361) est la deuxième fille du duc Pierre Ier de Bourbon et d'Isabelle de Valois. — Le mariage est célébré le 3 juin 1353 à Valladolid.

Bonne de Bourbon, dite « Madame la Grande », née vers 1341, décédée à Mâcon le 19 janvier 1402, est une dame de la maison de Bourbon, devenue par mariage comtesse de Savoie. — Le mariage a lieu par procuration en 1355 à l'Hôtel Saint-Pol, résidence royale, à Paris. L'ambassadeur du comté de Savoie, Guillaume de La Baume, muni de la procuration du comte Amédée VI de Savoie (1334-1383), prince du comté de Savoie, tient le rôle du marié au nom de son souverain. Bonne de Bourbon se rend ensuite au comté de Savoie, au cours d'un voyage à cheval de douze jours. Amédée VI de Savoie, quittant son armée, alliée à celle du roi Jean le Bon, l'attend dans la cité de Pont-de-Veyle. Il amène sa jeune femme au château du Bourget et y donne de grandes fêtes.

Marguerite de Bourbon, dame d'Albret et comtesse de Dreux, est née en 1344 et morte en 1416. Elle est la fille de Pierre Ier de Bourbon et d'Isabelle de Valois et la sœur de Jeanne de Bourbon. — Le 4 mai 1368, elle épousa par contrat Arnaud-Amanieu VIII d'Albret.


Ici un peu de critique s'impose :

Le 4 mai 1368, elle épousa par contrat Arnaud-Amanieu VIII d'Albret. De cette union naquirent :

  • Charles Ier d'Albret ;
  • Marguerite d'Albret (+1453) 17/04/1410, mariée à Gaston Ier de Foix-Grailly, captal de Buch, et mère d'Isabelle de Grailly qui épousa en 1426 Jacques, sire de Pons.


Une femme devient épouse en 1410 après que ses parents se sont mariés en 1368 ? Elle meurt en 1453 ? Fort bien, des femmes mariés près de 40 ans, ça existe, et des femmes mourant dans un âge de 84 ou 85 aussi, mais elle a 4 enfants, 4 accouchements, ce qui n'est pas rien pour une femme mariée à proche de 40. Combien d'années entre son frère aîné et elle-même ? Y a-t-il eu d'autres enfants morts en bas âge entre les deux ? De toute manière je lui accord entre 30 et 40 quand elle se marie, je note même entre 27 et 40. Sa fille, c'est plus facile, née le plus tôt en 1413, mariée en 1425 ou 1426, c'est entre 11 et 13 ans.

Catherine (1342-1427), mariée en 1359 Jean VI (mort en 1388), comte d'Harcourt


Trois filles mariées, mais définitivement pas les aînées, année de naissance pas notée, pour la troisième, même le mari n'a pas de page.

Blanche de Valois (1317 - 1er août 1348) mariée le 15 mai 1323 à Charles IV du Saint-Empire, futur empereur germanique. Blanche est la fille du comte Charles de Valois (1270-1325) et de Mahaut de Châtillon (1293 †1358), et la demi-sœur de Philippe VI roi de France.

Marguerite de Luxembourg (née 24 mai 1335 – morte avant octobre 1349), connu également sous le nom de Marguerite de Bohême, est une reine de Hongrie par son mariage avec Louis Ier de Hongrie. Elle est la seconde enfant de Charles IV du Saint-Empire et de sa première épouse Blanche de Valois1. Elle est membre de la maison de Luxembourg. — À l'âge de sept ans, Marguerite épouse en 1342 le roi Louis Ier de Hongrie4. Leur union dure sept années et reste sans enfants, probablement du fait du jeune âge de l'épouse car les époux n'ont pas le droit de consommer leur union, la mariée n'étant pas nubile. Elle meurt en 1349 encore mineure âgée d’environ 14 ans et est sans doute inhumée dans la basilique de Székesfehérvár. Sa mère Blanche ne lui survit qu'une année. Son époux veuf se remarie quatre années plus tard avec Elisabeth de Bosnie. [En principe elle aurait été nubile à partir de 12]

Catherine de Luxembourg née le 19 août 1342 et morte le 26 avril 1395 est le troisième enfant et la deuxième fille de l'empereur Charles IV et de sa première épouse Blanche de Valois. — Le 13 juillet 1356, Catherine épouse le duc d'Autriche Rodolphe.

Marie de Châtillon-Saint-Pol (v. 1303 ou 1304 – 16 ou 17 mars 1377) est une noble française devenue comtesse de Pembroke de par son mariage avec Aymar de Valence. Elle est célèbre pour avoir fondé le Pembroke College de Cambridge. — Le comte de Pembroke, qui n'a pour l'heure aucune descendance et cherche à assurer sa lignée, est âgé d'au moins 45 ans lors des négociations du mariage, tandis que Marie n'en a guère plus de 17. Les noces sont célébrées à Paris le 5 juillet 1321.

Blanche de Bretagne (v. 1270/1271 - Bois de Vincennes, 19 ou 20 mars 1328) est une princesse bretonne, fille de Jean II, duc de Bretagne et de Béatrice d'Angleterre ; épouse de Philippe d'Artois, héritier du comté d'Artois. — elle épouse en novembre 1281 Philippe d'Artois (1269 † 1298), seigneur de Conches, fils et héritier de Robert II, comte d'Artois.

Marguerite d'Artois (1285–1311), fille aînée de Philippe d'Artois et de Blanche de Bretagne, est comtesse d'Évreux et baronne d’Étampes par son mariage avec Louis d'Évreux. — Elle épouse en 1301 le demi-frère du roi de France Philippe IV le Bel, Louis, comte d'Évreux,

Marie d'Évreux (1303 - 31 octobre 1335) était l'aînée des enfants de Louis d'Évreux et de sa femme Marguerite d'Artois. Elle était membre de la maison Capet. — "mariée vers 1314"

Jeanne de Brabant, née le 24 juin 1322, morte à Bruxelles le 1er décembre 1406, fut duchesse de Brabant et de Limbourg de 1355 à 1406. Elle était fille de Jean III, duc de Brabant et de Limbourg, et de Marie d'Évreux. — Elle épousa en premières noces en 1334 Guillaume II de Hainaut (1307 † 1345), comte de Hainaut et de Hollande. Elle n'eut qu'un fils, Guillaume, mort jeune.

Marguerite de Brabant (9 février 1323 – v. 27 avril 1380) est la seconde fille du duc Jean III de Brabant et de Marie d'Évreux. Elle épouse en 1347 Louis II de Male, comte de Flandre, de Nevers et de Rethel.

Marguerite de Male (1350-1405) est l'ancêtre de la deuxième maison de Bourgogne. — En 1357, à l'âge de sept ans, elle épouse en premières noces Philippe de Rouvres (1346 – 1361), son cousin au deuxième degré. Veuve en 1361, à l'âge de onze ans, Marguerite devient duchesse douairière de Bourgogne (1361 – 1369). — En juin 1369, à 19 ans, elle épouse en secondes noces le duc Philippe II de Bourgogne, dit le Hardi, quatrième fils du roi de France Jean le Bon et de Bonne de Luxembourg.

Marguerite de Bourgogne, née à Montbard le 16 octobre 1374 et morte au Quesnoy le 8 mars 1441, était la fille de Philippe II le Hardi, duc de Bourgogne et Marguerite III de Flandre, comtesse de Flandre, devenue comtesse de Hainaut par mariage. — Le mariage fut célébré lors des doubles noces de Cambrai, le 12 avril 1385.

Jacqueline de Bavière (en néerlandais : Jacoba van Beieren, en latin : Jacoba Bavariae), enfant unique de Guillaume IV de Hainaut et de Marguerite de Bourgogne, est née le 15 juillet 1401 au Quesnoy et morte le 8 octobre 1436 à Teilingen, au nord de La Haye. — Cinq ans plus tard, le jeune couple étant sur le point d'atteindre l'âge nubile, le pape confirme le 22 avril 1411 les dispenses de mariage que nécessite leur consanguinité aux 3e et 4e degrés. En mars 1413, Charles VI donne à Paris des lettres pour l'accomplissement du mariage, l'« icelluy mariage estre parfaict et consommé ».

Catherine de Bourgogne, née en 1378, morte le 26 janvier 1426 (n.st.), est la fille du duc de Bourgogne Philippe le Hardi et de Marguerite III de Dampierre, comtesse de Flandre, de Bourgogne, de Nevers et de de Rethel. — Philippe entend renouer l'alliance avec l'Autriche conclut, dès septembre 1387, un traité de mariage entre Léopold IV (1371-1411) de Habsbourg et sa fille Catherine de Bourgogne, mariage qui ne survient cependant que le 15 août 1392.

Marie de Bourgogne, née à Dijon en 1386 et morte à Thonon-les-Bains le 8 octobre 1422, est une noble issue de la dynastie française des Valois devenue comtesse puis duchesse de Savoie à la suite de son mariage avec Amédée VIII de Savoie. Elle est la fille de Philippe, dit le Hardi, duc de Bourgogne et de Marguerite III de Flandre. — Marie de Bourgogne, alors âgée de sept ans, est mariée au jeune comte de Savoie, Amédée VIII, il a tout juste trois ans de plus. Le mariage est célébré à Chalon le 30 octobre 1393, jour de la saint Michel. Elle ne se rend auprès du comte que lorsqu'elle atteint ses 18 ans. Toutefois, il semble que le comte lui rendait de nombreuses visites,

Marie de Savoie, née en janvier 1411 au château de Thonon et morte à Verceil le 14 décembre 1469, est une princesse de la maison de Savoie, fille du duc Amédée VIII. — Elle épouse, le 2 décembre 1427, Philippe Marie Visconti (1392 † 1447), duc de Milan

Bonne de Savoie est une princesse de la maison de Savoie, morte à quinze ans juste avant son mariage — Pantaléon Costa de Beauregard (1859), puis repris notamment par Max Bruchet (1907), mentionne que la jeune fille a porté le titre de comtesse de Montfort, jusqu'à sa mort en 1430.

Marguerite de Savoie, née le 7 août 1420 ou 1421 à Morges et morte le 30 novembre 1479, Stuttgart), fut duchesse d'Anjou, comtesse du Maine et de Provence, reine consort de Naples et de Jérusalem titulaire puis électrice palatine et enfin comtesse de Wurtemberg. Elle était fille du duc Amédée VIII de Savoie et de Marie de Bourgogne. Par la suite son père devint antipape sous le nom de Félix V entre 1439 et 1449. — Elle est mariée, à Thonon, au duc Louis III d'Anjou (†1434). Les années du mariage varient, les historiens donnent ainsi le 31 août 1431, voire l'année 1434.

Helene von Württemberg (* nach 1453; † 19. Februar 1506) war eine spätmittelalterliche Grafentochter des Hauses Württemberg aus Stuttgart, die durch ihre Ehe mit dem Grafen Kraft VI. zur Gräfin Helena zu Hohenlohe wurde. — Helene heiratete am 26. Februar 1476 in Waldenburg den Grafen Kraft VI. zu Hohenlohe († 1503). [Hélène de Wurttemberg (* après 1453 ; † 19 févr. 1506), du Moyen Âge tardif, était une fille de comte de la maison de Wurttemberg, de Stuttgart, qui par son mariage avec le comte Kraft VI devint comtesse Hélène de Hohenlohe ... H. épousa le 26 févr. 1476 à Waldenbourg le comte Kraft VI à Hohenlohe († 1503)]

Margarethe (* nach 1453; † 21. April 1470), verheiratet am 23. April 1469 mit Graf Philipp von Eppstein-Königstein [Marguérite (* après 1453; † 21 avril 1470), épousa le 23 avril 1469 le comte Philippe d'Eppstein-Königstein]

Marie de Brabant, née en 1325 et morte en 1399 à Turnhout, est la troisième fille de Jean III de Brabant (1300-1355) et de Marie d'Évreux (1303-1335). — Elle épouse le 1er juillet 1347 Renaud III de Gueldre (1333 - 1371).

Marguerite d'Évreux, née vers 1307, morte vers 1350 est comtesse d'Auvergne et de Boulogne de 1325 à 1332 par son mariage avec Guillaume XII d'Auvergne. Elle est la fille de Louis d'Évreux et de Marguerite d'Artois. — En 1325, elle épouse au château de Busséol Guillaume XII d'Auvergne, fils de Robert VII d'Auvergne, comte d'Auvergne et de Boulogne, et de Blanche de Bourbon.

Jeanne d'Auvergne ou Jeanne de Boulogne (8 mai 1326 - 29 septembre 1360) est une comtesse d'Auvergne et de Boulogne, devenue reine de France par son second mariage avec le futur Jean le Bon, alors duc de Normandie. — Philippe de Bourgogne (1323-1346) ... En 1338, il épouse Jeanne Ire (1326 † 1360), comtesse d'Auvergne et de Boulogne (1332-1360), fille de Guillaume XII, comte d'Auvergne et comte de Boulogne, et de Marguerite d'Évreux.

Jeanne d'Évreux, née vers 1310 et morte le 4 mars 1371 à Brie-Comte-Robert, est reine de France et de Navarre du 5 juillet 1324 au 1er février 1328 en tant qu'épouse de Charles IV le Bel. — Le 26 mars 1324, Charles IV le Bel perd sa deuxième épouse Marie de Luxembourg lors d'un accident du carrosse royal. Toujours privé de descendance légitime malgré deux mariages, il convole en troisièmes noces à Annet-sur-Marne le 5 juillet suivant avec sa cousine Jeanne d'Évreux, qui a alors quatorze ans. Quelques semaines avant le mariage, le 21 juin 1324, le pape Jean XXII délivre la dispense nécessaire à cette union, Jeanne et Charles étant cousins germains. Pour une raison inconnue, la date de leur mariage a souvent été datée du 5 juillet 1325 : il semble toutefois improbable que Charles IV ait attendu seize mois pour se remarier après le décès de Marie de Luxembourg et, d'ailleurs, une lettre datée du 10 juillet 1324 et adressée à Édouard II d'Angleterre par ses émissaires à la cour de France mentionne le récent mariage du roi de France et de Navarre, cette lettre ayant été envoyée peu après la confiscation du duché d'Aquitaine par Charles IV, le 1er juillet 1324, qui précipite la guerre de Saint-Sardos.

Blanche de France, née le 1er avril 1328 à Châteauneuf-sur-Loire et morte le 8 février 1393 à Vincennes, est l'une des filles du roi Charles IV le Bel et de sa troisième épouse Jeanne d'Évreux. Née posthume, elle est la dernière représentante des Capétiens directs. — Le 18 janvier 1345, Philippe VI de Valois fait épouser à Blanche son fils cadet Philippe, duc d'Orléans et de Touraine, comte de Valois et de Beaumont-le-Roger, probablement dans le but de neutraliser les revendications au trône de Navarre que pourrait avoir un autre époux. De huit ans son cadet, le nouvel époux de Blanche ne lui donne aucun enfant, même s'il a lui-même deux enfants illégitimes, dont Louis d'Orléans, évêque de Poitiers de 1391 à 1394, puis évêque de Beauvais de 1395 à 1397.

Jeanne d'Artois (1289-1350), comtesse de Foix, est la fille de Philippe d'Artois (1269 † 1298) et de Blanche de Bretagne (1270 - 19 mars 1327). — Jeanne épouse à Senlis en octobre 1301 Gaston Ier de Foix-Béarn (1287 - † 13 décembre 1315). [directement à la petite-fille, Éléonore d'Aragon, puisque l'année de naissance manque pour Jeanne de Foix]

Éléonore d'Aragon, née en 1333, probablement au château de Falset, alors capitale du comté de Prades, et morte le 26 décembre 1416 à Barcelone, fut reine de Chypre par son mariage avec Pierre Ier de Chypre. Elle fut par ailleurs régente de l'île pendant l'absence de son mari en 1366, ainsi que durant la minorité de son fils, Pierre II, à compter de 1369. — Son mariage fut arrangé par son cousin le roi Pierre IV1, désireux de renforcer son pouvoir politique et économique en Méditerranée. Elle épousa ainsi en 1353 le roi Pierre Ier de Chypre, devenant du même fait reine de Chypre, de Jérusalem et d'Arménie.

Marie, surnommée Mariette (1360-1397), fiancée à Charles Visconti mais finalement mariée en 1385 à son cousin germain, Jacques de Lusignan (mort en 1395/1397), comte de Tripoli, fils de Jean de Lusignan et de sa seconde femme, Alix d'Ibelin

Marie d'Artois (1291-1365) est la fille de Philippe d'Artois (1269-1298) et de Blanche de Bretagne. Elle épouse en 1309 le comte Jean Ier de Namur.

Blanche de Namur naquit vers 1320, peut-être à Namur (Comté de Namur), et mourut en 1363 à Stockholm (Suède). Reine consort de Suède de 1335 à 1364 et Reine consort de Norvège de 1335 à 1343. — On raconte que Magnus IV Eriksson, roi de Suède et de Norvège, fut séduit par la beauté de la jeune princesse, alors qu'il faisait route pour la France en quête d'une prestigieuse épouse. La princesse s'embarqua pour la Scandinavie en août 1335 et ne devait jamais revoir les rives de la Meuse. — Le 24 juin 1336, à Stockholm, Blanche était couronnée reine de Norvège, de Suède et de Scanie. L'année suivante, elle donna naissance à un fils : Erik.

Marie de Namur (1322-1357), est une aristocrate flamande, comtesse de Vianden par son premier mariage et dame de Pierrepont par son second. — En 1335/36, elle épouse Henri II de Vianden, fils de Philippe II de Vianden et d'Adélaïde d'Arnsberg. Henri est assassiné à Famagouste en septembre 1337. La même année, elle donne naissance à Marie de Vianden.

Elizabeth of Bar also known as Elisabeth (Isabel) de Bar-Pierrepont, was born c. 1345 at Hagestein, Zeeland, Netherlands. She was the youngest daughter of Theobald de Bar, Seigneur de Pierrepont and his wife Marie de Namur. — She married Otto, Lord of Arkel, son of John IV, Lord of Arkel and Irmengard of Cleves, somewhere before 18 October 1360. [Élisabeth de Bar, aussi connue comme Élisabeth (Isabel) de Bar-Pierrepont, née env. 1345 à Hagestein, Zélande (?), Pays-Bas. Elle était la cadette de Théobald de Bar, Seigneur de Pierrepont, et de sa femme Marie de Namur ... elle épousa Otton, Seigneur d'Arkel, fils de Jean IV, Seigneur d'Arkel et d'Irmegarde de Clèves, quelque part avant 18 octobre 1360.]

Sancie de Provence, née probablement vers 1225/1228 et morte le 9 novembre 1261 à Berkhamsted, est une noble issue de la maison de Barcelone, devenue par mariage comtesse de Cornouailles et reine de Germanie. Elle ne sera toutefois jamais sacrée impératrice. — L'engagement est donc rompu et c'est sous l'impulsion de sa sœur Éléonore qu'elle est promise à son beau-frère, Richard Ier, comte de Cornouailles, qui est veuf de sa première femme, Isabelle le Maréchal. L'évêque de Hereford, Pierre d'Aigueblanche, originaire de Savoie, diplomate à la cour des rois Saint Louis et Alphonse X de Castille, et Pierre de Savoie, l'oncle des deux princesses, sont chargés des négociations. L'acte est signé le 17 juillet 1242 à Tarascon. Sancie est représentée par sa mère, la comtesse Béatrice, et Richard par Pierre de Savoie, le frère de Béatrice. Le mariage se déroule le 23 novembre 1243 dans l'abbaye de Westminster.

Béatrice de Provence, née en 1229 et morte à Nocera le 23 septembre 1267, est une comtesse de Provence et de Forcalquier, fille de Raimond-Bérenger IV, comte de Provence et de Forcalquier, et de Béatrice de Savoie. Par mariage, elle devient reine de Naples et de Sicile. — La jeune fille est remise à Charles, avec le consentement du roi Louis IX. De fait, Charles devient comte de Provence. Le mariage se déroule le 31 janvier 1246 à Aix. Après un court séjour en Provence, les jeunes époux rentrent en France.

Blanche d'Anjou (1250- 1269), est la fille aînée de Charles Ier d'Anjou et de sa première épouse, Béatrice de Provence. Elle est la première épouse de Robert III de Flandre. — En 1265, Blanche épouse Robert de Béthune. Cette union semble être heureuse. Le couple a un fils, Charles, qui meurt jeune après avoir été fiancé à Isabelle, fille d'Hugues IV de Bourgogne et de Béatrice de Champagne.

Béatrice de Sicile (17 novembre 1252 - 12 décembre 1275) fut impératrice titulaire de Constantinople en tant qu'épouse de Philippe de Courtenay. — Le 15 octobre 1273, Béatrice et Philippe se marient à Foggia. La mariée avait vingt et un ans et le marié trente.

Catherine de Courtenay, née le 25 novembre 1274 et morte le 11 octobre 1307, est une impératrice titulaire de Constantinople de 1283 à 1307. — Veuf, Charles de France, frère du roi (1270 † 1325) cherche une nouvelle épouse et trouve un excellent parti en la personne de Catherine, princesse pauvrement dotée mais héritière en titre de l'Empire latin de Constantinople en tant que petite-fille du dernier empereur latin Baudouin II de Courtenay. Certes l'empire a disparu, mais les prétentions de Charles peuvent servir à justifier des expéditions en Méditerranée orientale. — Le mariage a lieu entre le 28 janvier et le 8 février 1300.

Catherine II de Valois-Courtenay (1303 - 20 septembre 1346) fut impératrice titulaire de Constantinople. Elle était la fille de Charles de France, comte de Valois, et de Catherine de Courtenay.Elle épousa à Fontainebleau en 1313 Philippe d'Anjou, prince de Tarente (1278-1332), fils du roi de Naples Charles II et de Marie de Hongrie.

Marguerite (1325-1380), mariée en 1352 à François des Baux (1330-1422), duc d'Andria

Jeanne de Valois, née en 1304 et morte le 9 juillet 1363, dite Madame d'Artois, est une fille de Charles de France, fils du roi Philippe III le Hardi et frère de Philippe IV le Bel. Elle est donc la demi-sœur de Philippe de Valois, qui devient roi de France en 1328 sous le nom de Philippe VI, à la suite de l'extinction de la lignée masculine des Capétiens directs. — En 1318, elle épouse Robert III d'Artois (1287-1342), comte de Beaumont-le-Roger (Eure) et seigneur de Conches (Eure).

Isabelle d'Anjou, aussi nommée Élisabeth de Sicile (1261-1303) est reine consort de Hongrie de 1272 à 1290 et la plus jeune enfant de Charles Ier d'Anjou et de sa première épouse Béatrice de Provence. — Isabelle d'Anjou épouse Ladislas IV de Hongrie en 1270. Cependant ce dernier la néglige au profit de son entourage couman, dont sa mère Élisabeth est issue.

Marguerite de Savoie, née en 1212 et décédée en 1273, est une noble de la maison de Savoie qui par mariage devient comtesse de Kybourg.Marguerite de Savoie est fiancée dès son enfance, à six ans, à Hartmann IV de Kybourg, l'Ancien, héritier des Zahringen en Helvétie, le 1er juin 1218 à Moudon ; on ne connaît pas la date précise du mariage mais le contrat de mariage fut écrit à la date des fiançailles. Le généalogiste Samuel Guichenon du xviie siècle donne comme date « le premier jour de juin 1218 » et comme lieu la ville de Moudon.


06 06 07 07 07 09 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13
05 06 06 06 07 07 07 08 08 08 09 09 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 11 11 11
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22

13 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 16 16 16 16 16 17 18 18
12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 15 15 15 15 16 16 16
23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49

18 18 18 18 18 18 18 19 19 19 20 20 20 20
16 17 17 17 17 17 18 18 18 19 19 19 19 20
50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63

20 21 21 21 22 22 22 24 24 24 24 24 25 25 27 27 28 29 37 40
20 20 20 21 21 21 22 23 23 23 23 24 24 25 26 26 27 27 29 37
64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83

Médiane, 14 à 16 selon les sources. Minimum, 5 ou 6. Quartile basse 11 à 13 selon les sources.
Maximum, 37 à 40 selon les sources. Quartile haute 19 à 20 selon les sources.

À l'époque des Croisades, on fit diverses griefs aux Musulmans. La "pédophilie" n'en faisait pas partie. La papauté avait, probablement un siècle avant St. Thomas d'Aquin essayé à endiguer, à mettre 12 pour la femme et 14 pour le mari comme minimum. Le Moyen Âge n'était que sensible à moitié à ceci, les temps modernes sont devenus hypersensibles, jusqu'en vouloir faire grief à la papauté d'avoir placé la limite si basse./HGL

Half Died Between 35 and 56



Four female lineages leading to English Royalty
Three Other Naples Connected Lineages
Daughters of Uliana of Tver

14 15 15 16 17 18 19 21 21 24 25 25 26 26 27 27 28 29
14 15 15 16 16 18 19 20 21 23 24 24 25 25 26 27 27 28
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18

30 31 31 31 32 33 33 33 33 35 35 35 35 35 35 36 36 36 36
29 30 30 30 30 31 31 31 32 33 33 33 34 34 34 35 35 35 35
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 34 35 36 37 38

36 37 37 37 37 37 37 38 38 38 38 39 39 39 39 39 40 40 40 40
36 36 36 36 36 36 36 37 37 37 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 39 39
39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58

41 41 41 42 42 42 42 42 43 44 44 44
39 40 40 41 42 42 42 42 43 43 43 44
59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70

44 45 45 45 45 46
44 44 44 44 45 45
71 72 73 74 75 76

46 46 47 47 48 48 48 48 50 50 50 51 51 51 51 51 51 52 52 52
45 45 45 46 47 47 47 48 49 49 50 50 50 50 51 51 51 51 51 52
77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96

52 52 53 — 53 53 54 55 55 56 56 56 56 56 57 57 58 59
52 52 52 — 52 52 53 54 55 55 55 55 55 55 56 57 57 58
97 98 99 C 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13

59 60 61 61 61 61 61 62 62 63 64 65 66 66 67 68 69 70 70 72
59 59 60 60 60 60 61 62 62 62 62 64 65 65 65 67 68 69 70 71
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33

73 73 73 73 75 75 75 76 76 79 84 91
72 72 73 73 75 75 75 75 75 76 82 91
34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45

14 36 45 56 91
14 35 44 55 91
01 37 73 09 45

35 — 56 lower age count, numbers 35 to 112. 78 / 145 or 53.793 %
35 — 56 higher age count, numbers 28 to 109. 82 / 145 or 56.552 %/HGL

Monday, November 13, 2023

Three Other Naples Connected Lineages


See also:
Half Died Between 35 and 56

I Mary of Enghien
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_of_Enghien


Mary of Enghien, also known as Maria d'Enghien (1367 or 1370 – 9 May 1446), was Countess of Lecce from 1384 to 1446 and Queen of Naples and titular Queen of Sicily, Jerusalem and Hungary from 1406 to 1414 by marriage to Ladislaus of Naples.
Mary's father, John, died in 1380, leaving minor children. Mary's brother Peter of Enghien, also known as Pyrrhus (Pyrro or Pirro), became Count of Lecce. However, Peter died childless in 1384 and was succeeded by Mary and her husband, Raimondo del Balzo Orsini di Nola, whom she married in Taranto the same year.

Catherine of Taranto (d. 1429; sometimes Caterina d'Enghien Orsini del Balzo) was the daughter of Mary of Enghien and Raimondo Orsini del Balzo di Nola and sister of Giovanni Antonio Orsini del Balzo.
[year of marriage lacking]

Sancia di Chiaromonte (died 30 March 1468), Countess of Copertino and Lady of Nardò. In 1436 she married Francesco II del Balzo (1410–1482), 3rd Duke of Andria, who became Count of Copertino as part of her dowry.
[her older sister was born in 1424, see below, so she was 10 or 11]

Isabella of Clermont (c. 1424 – 30 March 1465), also known as Isabella of Taranto, was queen of Naples as the first wife of King Ferdinand I of Naples, and a feudatory of the kingdom as the holder and ruling Princess of the Principality of Taranto in 1463–1465.
On 30 May 1444/1445, Isabella married Ferdinand of Aragon, then Duke of Calabria (1423–1494), natural son of Alfonso V of Aragon who had recently conquered the Neapolitan kingdom from French Angevins, and thus was the new liege lord of Isabella and her family.

Eleanor of Naples (Leonora or Eleonora of Aragon; 22 June 1450 – 11 October 1493)[1] was Duchess of Ferrara by marriage to Ercole I d'Este.
Sposò nel 1465 il quattordicenne Sforza Maria Sforza, terzogenito dei duchi di Milano Francesco Sforza e Bianca Maria Visconti, ma il matrimonio non venne mai consumato.

Isabella d'Este (19 May 1474 – 13 February 1539) was Marchioness of Mantua and one of the leading women of the Italian Renaissance as a major cultural and political figure.
Ten years later on 11 February 1490, at age 15, she married Francesco by proxy. By then, he had succeeded to the marquisate. Besides being the Marquess, Francesco was captain general of the armies of the Republic of Venice. Isabella became his wife and marchioness amid a spectacular outpouring of popular acclamation and a grand celebration that took place on 15 February.

Eleonora Gonzaga, Duchess of Urbino (31 December 1493 – 13 February 1550[1]) was Duchess and sometime regent of Urbino by marriage to Francesco Maria I della Rovere, duke of Urbino. She served as regent during the absence of her spouse in 1532.[2]
On 25 September 1509 she married Francesco Maria I della Rovere, duke of Urbino, son of Giovanni della Rovere, duca di Sora e Senegaglia, and Giovanna da Montefeltro, and nephew of Pope Julius II.

Ippolita della Rovere (1525 — 1561), reportedly married Antonio of Aragon, Duke of Montalto, son of Fernando de Aragón, 1st Duke of Montalto.
[Antonio d'Aragona y Cardona?, 2nd Duke of Montalto, (*Naples, Italy, 1499/1506 - +Naples, Italy, 1543); 1st marriage: 1541, Ippolita della Rovere (1525–1561). 2nd marriage: Giulia Antonia de Cardona, Countess di Collisano]

Elisabetta della Rovere (1529 — 6 June 1561), married Alberico I Cybo-Malaspina, Marquis of Massa and had issue (ancestors of Maria Teresa Cybo-Malaspina).
[Nel 1552 Alberico sposò Elisabetta Della Rovere, figlia del duca di Urbino, Francesco Maria I Della Rovere che si era schierato a favore del giovane marchese.]

Giulia Feltria della Rovere (1531 — 4 April 1563), married Alfonso d'Este, Lord of Montecchio and had issue (were parents of Cesare d'Este, Duke of Modena).
[Alfonso was legitimated in 1532 by cardinal Innocenzo Cybo and in 1533 by his father Alfonso I.[2] His first marriage followed on 3 January 1549, to Giulia della Rovere, daughter of Francesco Maria I della Rovere, Duke of Urbino and Eleonora Gonzaga. In 1584 he married Violante Signa (1546–1609), though that marriage remained childless.[3]]

Eleonora d'Este (1561–1637) was a Ferrarese noblewoman.
On 21 February 1594 she married the composer Carlo Gesualdo in Ferrara,

Ippolita d'Este (1565–1602), married Federico Pico, duke of Mirandola.
[Federico II Pico sposò Ippolita d'Este a Ferrara nel 1594 ed ebbero due figli, entrambi morti in giovane età prima dei genitori:]

Beatrice d'Este (29 June 1475 – 3 January 1497) was Duchess of Bari and Milan by marriage to Ludovico Sforza (known as "il Moro").
The official nuptials were to have taken place in January 1491 in a double wedding with Beatrice marrying Ludovico and Isabella marrying Francesco at the same time, but the Duke of Bari postponed it more than once.[20] Finally, around a year later, they were wed in a double Sforza-Este wedding: Ludovico married Beatrice, while Beatrice's brother, Alfonso d'Este, married Anna Sforza, the sister of Gian Galeazzo Sforza. Leonardo da Vinci orchestrated the wedding celebration.

Beatrice of Naples (16 November 1457 – 23 September 1508), also known as Beatrice of Aragon (Hungarian: Aragóniai Beatrix; Italian: Beatrice d'Aragona), was twice Queen of Hungary and of Bohemia by marriage to Matthias Corvinus and Vladislaus II.[1] She was the daughter of Ferdinand I of Naples and Isabella of Clermont.
Beatrice received a good education at her father's court in Naples. She was engaged in 1474 and married Matthias in Hungary 22 December 1476: she was crowned Queen of Hungary in Székesfehérvár.


II Inés de Ayala
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/In%C3%A9s_de_Ayala


[Given the biography of her father, Inés de Ayala below is probably born between 1380 (he seems to have married in 1379) and 1385 (when he died). Given her daughter is born in 1394, she would have been at the oldest 14 then, making her 13 when marrying, and that is born in 1380. If she was born in 1381, she was 12 when marrying.]

Inés de Ayala (s. xiv-Toledo, 4 de septiembre 1453), III señora de Casarrubios del Monte, Provincia de Toledo, fue hija de Pedro Suárez de Toledo, II señor de Casarrubios del Monte y de Juana Meléndez de Orozco, señora de Pinto. Recibió sepultura en la iglesia del convento de Santa Isabel de los Reyes en Toledo.
Casó con Diego Fernández de Córdoba, quien había enviudado de su primera mujer en marzo de 1393.
"Inés de Ayala, également connue sous le nom de Inés Pérez de Ayala y Enríquez née vers 1410" [impossible, à moins que ce soit une autre Inés!]

Mariana Fernández de Córdoba y Ayala (c. 1394[1] – 1431), also known as Mariana de Ayala Córdoba y Toledo, was the fourth Lady of Casarrubios del Monte in the province of Toledo. She was the daughter of Diego Fernández de Córdoba y Carrillo, first Lord of Baena, and Inés Ayala y Toledo, third Lady of Casarrubios del Monte.
Mariana married Fadrique Enríquez de Mendoza, Admiral of Castile and Lord of Medina de Rioseco around July 1425.

[Note, if Mariana Fernández married Fadrique Enríquez in July 1425 and there was no premarital sex, Juana Enriquez should not be born in 1425, but in early 1426, right?]

Juana Enriquez, 5th Lady of Casarrubios del Monte (1425 – 13 February 1468) was Queen of Aragon and de facto Queen consort of Navarre as the wife of King John II. Juana Enríquez was the Regent of Navarre during the absence of her husband in the Navarrese Civil War (1451–1455); she also served as Governor of Catalonia in 1462 in the place of her son (who was his father's nominal governor) and, finally, as Regent of Aragon during the absence of her husband in the Catalan Civil War between 1465 and 1468.
The marriage between Juana Enriquez and John of Aragon was arranged because John wished to ally himself with the powerful noble faction she belonged to, a faction which had major power in Castile at the time. They were engaged in 1443, but the marriage was delayed. The wedding finally took place in 1447.

Joanna of Aragon (Spanish: Juana, Italian: Giovanna; 16 June 1455 – 9 January 1517) was Queen of Naples as the second wife of King Ferdinand I. She served as regent (General Lieutenant) of Naples between the abdication and flight of King Alfonso II 22 February 1495 until the formal succession of Ferdinand II of Naples.
King Ferdinand I of Naples, an illegitimate son of her uncle Alfonso V of Aragon, asked Joanna's hand in marriage from John II and he accepted.[2] After the wedding on 14 September the contract was signed in Navarre, on 5 October 1476 and the agreement was ratified on 25 November.[2] John II gave his daughter a dowry of 100,000 gold florins and Ferdinand gave his new wife many duchies and/or cities, such as Sorrento, Theano, Isernia, Teramo, Sulmona, Francavilla and Nocera.

Joanna of Naples (15 April 1478 – 27 August 1518) was Queen of Naples by marriage to her nephew, Ferdinand II of Naples. After the death of her spouse, she was for a short while a candidate for the throne.
In 26 July 1496, the 17-year-old Joanna married her 27-year-old nephew, Ferdinand II, the son of her half-brother, Alfonso II. A papal dispensation had been necessary in order to conduct a wedding between an aunt and nephew. However, Ferdinand II died on 7 September of the same year. The marriage was childless.


III Elizabeth the Cuman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_the_Cuman


Elizabeth the Cuman (1244–1290) was the Queen consort of Stephen V of Hungary. ... The Cumans were the western tribes of the Cuman-Kipchak confederation. Her people followed a shamanist religion and were considered pagans by contemporary Christians of Europe. ... The marriage of Stephen and Elizabeth occurred in 1253. The groom was twelve years old and the bride close in age to him. She became queen of Hungary upon her father-in-law's death on 3 May 1270.

Catherine of Hungary (Hungarian: Katalin, Serbian: Каталина/Katalina; c. 1256 – after 1314) was a Queen consort of Serbia by her marriage to Stefan Dragutin. Catherine was the second daughter of Stephen V of Hungary and his wife Elizabeth, daughter of Seyhan, chieftain of the Cumans.
The result was the marriage of Catherine to his son Stephen Dragutin of Serbia[citation needed] in c.1268.

Elizabeth of Serbia (Serbian: Јелисаветa/Jelisaveta; c. 1270 — died 1331)[1] was Baness of Bosnia by her marriage to Stephen I, Ban of Bosnia. Elizabeth briefly ruled as regent for her eldest son, Stephen II, in 1314.
After 1283, she married Stephen I Kotroman, Ban of Bosnia. Dragutin had already controlled two banates in Bosnia: Usora and Soli and Kotroman immediately fell under his influence – many of his acts were of Dragutin's command. The marriage was political and arranged by Ban Prijezda II who had attempted to forge an alliance with Stephen Dragutin (Elizabeth's father).

Catherine of Bosnia (Serbo-Croatian: Katarina Kotromanić / Катарина Котроманић; 1294–1355) was daughter of Stephen I, Ban of Bosnia and sister of Stephen II, Ban of Bosnia.
Catherine will marry prince Nikola of Hum sometime before 1338. Nikola was knyaz from Hum 1322, which Stephen II, brother of Catherine, at the time Ban of Bosnia, annexed to his realm.

Mary of Hungary (c. 1257 – 25 March 1323), of the Árpád dynasty, was Queen of Naples by marriage to King Charles II.
Mary was 12 years old when she wed Charles II of Naples in Naples on 6 August 1270.

Margaret of Anjou (1272 – 31 December 1299) was Countess of Anjou and Maine in her own right and Countess of Valois, Alençon and Perche by marriage. Margaret's father was King Charles II of Naples, whilst her husband was Charles, Count of Valois (third son of King Philip III of France), and her older brother was Saint Louis of Toulouse; her nephew was King Charles I of Hungary.
She married Charles of Valois, a son of Philip III of France, at Corbeil in August 1290.

Isabelle (1292–1309), wife of John III, Duke of Brittany.
In 1297, John married Isabella of Valois,[2] eldest child of Charles, Count of Valois and his first wife Margaret of Naples. At the time of their marriage John was eleven years old and his bride five. She died childless in 1309.

Joan of Valois (c. 1294 – 1342) was a Countess consort of Hainaut, Holland, and Zeeland, by marriage to William I, Count of Hainaut.
Joan married William I, Count of Hainaut,[4] on 23 May 1305.

Margaret II of Avesnes (1311 – 23 June 1356) was Countess of Hainaut and Countess of Holland (as Margaret I) from 1345 to 1356. She was Holy Roman Empress and Queen of Germany by marriage to Holy Roman Emperor Louis IV the Bavarian.
On 26 February 1324, in Cologne, she married Louis of Bavaria, thereby becoming Queen of Germany. On 17 January 1328, she was crowned Holy Roman Empress alongside her spouse in Rome.

Margaret of Bavaria (1321–1374) was the eldest child of Louis IV, Holy Roman Emperor, and Margaret II, Countess of Hainaut.
In Ofen in 1351, Margaret married Stephen, Duke of Slavonia, the youngest son of King Charles I of Hungary and Elizabeth of Poland.

Elizabeth of Slavonia (1352 – before 1380), was the heir presumptive to the Hungarian throne between 1360 and 1370.
In October 1370, Elizabeth married Philip II, Prince of Taranto, a 41-year-old widower and pretender to the Latin Empire.

Anna of Bavaria, Duchess of Lower Bavaria (c. 1326 – 3 June 1361, Fontenelles), married John I, Duke of Lower Bavaria, who died young (d. 1340), they had no issue.
Er wurde als Kind 1335 mit Elisabeth, einer Tochter des polnischen Königs Kasimir I., verlobt[2]. Diese und eine weitere Verlobung mit einer Tochter von Pfalzgraf Rudolf II. wurden aufgelöst und Johann am 18. April 1339 in München mit Anna, der Tochter Ludwigs des Bayern, verheiratet[3].

Elisabeth of Bavaria, Countess of Württemberg (1329 – 2 August 1402, Stuttgart), married:
1) Cangrande II della Scala, Lord of Verona (d. 1359) in Verona on 22 November 1350. No issue
2) Count Ulrich of Württemberg (d. 1388) in 1362. Parents of Eberhard III of Württemberg 1364-1417.

Beatrice of Bavaria, Queen of Sweden (1344 – 25 December 1359), married bef. 25 October 1356 to King Eric XII of Sweden.

Philippa of Hainault (sometimes spelled Hainaut; Middle French: Philippe de Hainaut; 24 June 1310 (or 1315)[1][2][3] – 15 August 1369) was Queen of England as the wife and political adviser of King Edward III.[4] She acted as regent in 1346,[5] when her husband was away for the Hundred Years' War.
The official marriage was at York Minster on 24 January 1328, eleven months after Edward's accession to the English throne; although the de facto rulers were Queen Mother Isabella and her lover, Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March, who jointly acted as his regents.

Isabella of England (16 June 1332 – c. 5 October 1382) was the eldest daughter of King Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault, and the wife of Enguerrand de Coucy, Earl of Bedford, by whom she had two daughters. She was made a Lady of the Garter in 1376.
Isabella's husband had been brought to England in 1360 as a hostage exchanged for the freedom of King John II of France, an English prisoner. They married on 27 July 1365, at Windsor Castle, by which time Isabella was in her thirties.

Marie I de Coucy (April 1366 – after 3 March 1405) was Dame de Coucy and d'Oisy, and Countess of Soissons from 1397. She succeeded suo jure to the title of Countess of Soissons upon the death of her father, Enguerrand VII de Coucy, on 18 February 1397. In addition to her titles, she also possessed numerous estates in northeastern France. She was the wife of Henry of Bar, and the granddaughter of King Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault.
In November 1384, she married Henry of Bar, Marquis de Pont-à-Mousson,[2] son of Robert I, Duke of Bar and Marie of Valois, sister of King Charles V of France.

Philippa de Coucy, Countess of Oxford, Duchess of Ireland (before 18 April 1367 – 24 September 1411: 1411) was a first cousin of King Richard II of England and the wife of his favourite, Robert de Vere, 9th Earl of Oxford, Marquess of Dublin, Duke of Ireland. Philippa was made a Lady of the Garter in 1378.
The betrothed couple were married on 5 October 1376; they had no children.

Mary of Waltham (10 October 1344 – September 1361),[note 1] Duchess of Brittany, was a daughter of King Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault and was the wife of John IV, Duke of Brittany, known in England as "John V" and "The Conqueror". Mary was made a Lady of the Garter in 1378.[3]
Mary was married to John at Woodstock Palace around 3 July 1361.

Margaret of England (20 July 1346 – October/December 1361) was a royal princess born in Windsor, the daughter of King Edward III of England and his consort, Philippa of Hainault. She was also known as Margaret of Windsor.
On 13 May 1359, she became the wife of John Hastings in the same week as her brother John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, married Blanche of Lancaster, in Reading.

Jeanne de Hainaut (v. 1315 - † 1374), duchesse de Julliers et comtesse de Cambridge, est la fille de Guillaume Ier de Hainaut et de Jeanne de Valois.
En 1334 Jeanne épouse Guillaume V (° 1315 - † 1362), duc de Juliers.

Godfrey was married in 1357 to Philippa of Jülich (d. 1390), daughter of William V, Duke of Jülich, and Joanna of Hainaut.

On 3 April 1348, John married, by Papal dispensation,[citation needed] Isabella (also known as Elizabeth, born c. 1330, died 6 June 1411), daughter of William V, Duke of Jülich, and Joanna.

Isabella of Hainaut (1323–1361), married Robert of Namur, the son of John I, Count of Namur. There was no issue.
On 2 February 1354, Robert of Namur firstly married Isabella of Hainaut (1323–1361), sister of Queen Philippa of England and daughter of William I, Count of Hainaut and Joan of Valois.

Margaret of Valois (1295–1342) was a French noblewoman. She was a daughter of Charles, Count of Valois, and his first wife, Margaret, Countess of Anjou.[1] She was also a sister of King Philip VI of France.
In 1310, she married Guy I of Châtillon, Count of Blois.

Marie de Châtillon (1323-1363) was the Duchess consort of Lorraine by marriage to Rudolph, Duke of Lorraine.
married: in 1334 to Rudolph, Duke of Lorraine (d. 1346)

Blanche of Anjou (1280 – 14 October 1310) was Queen of Aragon as the second spouse of King James II of Aragon. She was a member of the Capetian House of Anjou, she is also known as Blanche of Naples. She served as Regent or "Queen-Lieutenant" of Aragon during the absence of her spouse in 1310.
On 29 October or 1 November 1295 at Vilabertran, Blanche and James were married.

Maria of Aragon (c. 1299–1347 in Sijena) was a daughter of James II of Aragon and his second wife Blanche of Anjou.
En diciembre de 1311 el infante Pedro contrajo matrimonio, en la ciudad de Calatayud, con la infanta María de Aragón, hija de Jaime II de Aragón.

Isabella of Aragon (1305 – 12 July 1330) was the daughter of James II of Aragon[1] and his second wife Blanche of Anjou. The queen consort of Frederick I of Austria, she was a member of the House of Barcelona.
On 11 May 1315, Isabella married Frederick I of Austria, King of Germany in Ravensburg.

Anna of Austria (1318–1343) was the youngest daughter of Frederick the Fair, of Austria and his wife, Isabella of Aragon.
Between 1326 and 1328, Anna married Henry XV, Duke of Bavaria. The marriage was short, Henry died in 1333 and the couple had no issue.

Eleanor of Anjou (August 1289 – 9 August 1341) was Queen of Sicily as the wife of King Frederick II of Sicily. She was a member of the Capetian House of Anjou by birth.
Eleanor was firstly married in 1299 to Philippe II de Toucy, son of Narjot de Toucy, Lord of Laterza, and Lucia of Tripoli. Their marriage was dissolved on 17 January 1300 by Pope Boniface VIII because they were related and had not sought permission from the pope to marry.
On 17 May 1302, Eleanor married secondly to the King of Sicily, Frederick I

Constance of Sicily (1304/1306 – after 19 June 1344) was Queen of Cyprus and Jerusalem by marriage to Henry II of Cyprus and Queen of Armenia by marriage to Leo IV of Armenia.
Constance was married on 16 October 1317 to Henry II of Cyprus and Jerusalem, who was son of Hugh III of Cyprus.[2] He was more than 30 years older than her.

Elisabeth of Sicily (1310–1349) was a daughter of Frederick III of Sicily and Eleanor of Anjou. Her siblings included: Peter II of Sicily and Manfred of Athens. After her death her title was given to Georgia Lanza.
On June 27, 1328, Elisabeth married Stephen II, Duke of Bavaria,[1] son of Louis IV, Holy Roman Emperor and Beatrix of Silesia-Glogau.

Agnes (b. 1338), married c. 1356 King James I of Cyprus.

Margaret of Sicily or Margherita di Sicilia-Aragona (1331 in Palermo – 1377 in Neustadt) was a Sicilian princess, daughter of the King Frederick III of Sicily and his wife Eleanor of Anjou. In 1348 she married Rudolf II,
Count Palatine of the Rhine, and was Countess Palatine of the Rhine until 1353, year of the husband's death.

Maria of Anjou (1290 – end of April 1346/January 1347) was a member of the Capetian House of Anjou who served as Queen of Majorca during her marriage to King Sancho of Majorca. She was the daughter of King Charles II of Naples and his wife, Mary of Hungary.

Violante d'Aragona (Barcellona, ottobre 1310 – Pedrola, 1353) fu una principessa aragonese.
Il primo matrimonio venne celebrato nel febbraio del 1329 con Filippo (1300-1330), despota di Romania e figlio di Filippo I d'Angiò.

Beatrice (1295 – c. 1321), married firstly April 1305 Azzo VIII d'Este, Marquis of Ferrara (d. 1308),[39] married secondly 1309 Bertrand III of Baux, Count of Andria (d. 1351).
Chiamato anche Azzone, sposò in prime nozze nel 1282 Giovanna Orsini e in seconde nozze Beatrice, figlia di Carlo II d'Angiò re di Napoli, nel 1305.

Anna of Hungary[1] (c. 1260–1281) was a Princess of Hungary and Croatia, daughter of Stephen V of Hungary and Elizabeth the Cuman.[2] Anna was granddaughter of Béla IV of Hungary.
On 8 November 1273, Anna married Andronikos II Palaiologos.


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The usual age in the Middle Ages is median 16/17 and lower quartile 14. It is possible that the even lower ages here have sth to do with this being Southern Europe, with earlier pubertal development (since electric lighting and imports of vitamin C rich fruits, this has been lowered further North as well)./HGL

PS, the one marriage concluded formally when the bride was 5 was in the line of Elizabeth the Cuman, as I recall (it's some time since I viewed the wiki). For a Turkic view on marriage while one (or both) is (are) still a child (or children) and obviously cohabiting years without sexual intercourse, waiting until it became possible, I think the manga A Bride's Story could be instructive. Cumans were a Turkic people, even if Elizabeth the Cuman was in fact the Queen of the Hungarians, who are not a Turkic people./HGL

Four female lineages leading to English Royalty


See also:
Half Died Between 35 and 56

I Elizabeth Cheney (1422–1473)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cheney_(1422%E2%80%931473)


Elizabeth Cheney (April 1422 – 25 September 1473) was a member of the English gentry, who, by her two marriages, was the great-grandmother of Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, and Catherine Howard, three of the wives of King Henry VIII of England, thus making her great-great-grandmother to King Edward VI, the son of Henry VIII and Jane Seymour, and Elizabeth I, the daughter of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. Her first husband was Sir Frederick Tilney, and her second husband was Sir John Say, Speaker of the House of Commons. She bore a total of eight children from both marriages.
On an unknown date, Elizabeth Cheney married her first husband Sir Frederick Tilney, of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, and Boston, Lincolnshire.

Anne Say (born c. 1453 – died between 1484 and 1494) was an English Baroness through her marriage to Sir Henry Wentworth in c. 1470 until her death. She was the daughter of Sir John Say (1441–1483) and his wife Elizabeth Cheney, Lady Say. She is notable for being the maternal grandmother to Jane Seymour, the third wife of King Henry VIII of England, making her the great-grandmother to Edward VI.
On about February 25 1470, Anne married Sir Henry Wentworth of Nettlestead, Suffolk, KB

Margery Wentworth, also known as Margaret Wentworth, and as both Lady Seymour[1] and Dame Margery Seymour[2] (c. 1478[3] – 18 October 1550[4]), was the wife of Sir John Seymour and the mother of Queen Jane Seymour, the third wife of King Henry VIII of England. She was the grandmother of King Edward VI of England.
On 22 October 1494 Margery married Sir John Seymour (1476–1536)[10] of Wulfhall, Savernake Forest, Wiltshire.

Jane Seymour (/ˈsiːmɔːr/; c. 1508 – 24 October 1537) was Queen of England as the third wife of King Henry VIII from their marriage on 30 May 1536 until her death the next year. She became queen following the execution of Henry's second wife, Anne Boleyn. She died of postnatal complications less than two weeks after the birth of her only child, the future King Edward VI. She was the only wife of Henry to receive a queen's funeral; and he was later buried alongside her remains in St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.
Henry VIII was betrothed to Jane on 20 May 1536, the day after Anne Boleyn's execution. They were married at the Palace of Whitehall, Whitehall, London, in the Queen's closet by Bishop Gardiner[13] on 30 May 1536.

Elizabeth Seymour (c. 1518[5] – 19 March 1568[3]) was a younger daughter of Sir John Seymour of Wulfhall, Wiltshire and Margery Wentworth.[6] Elizabeth and her sister Jane served in the household of Anne Boleyn, the second wife of Henry VIII.
Elizabeth lived under four Tudor monarchs (Lady Jane Grey is not included) and was married three times. By July 1530[15] she had married Sir Anthony Ughtred, Governor of Jersey, who died in 1534.

Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey (before 1445 – 4 April 1497) was an English heiress who became the first wife of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk (when still Earl of Surrey). She served successively as a lady-in-waiting to two Queen consorts, namely Elizabeth Woodville, wife of King Edward IV, and later as Lady of the Bedchamber to that Queen's daughter, Elizabeth of York, the wife of King Henry VII. She stood as joint godmother to Princess Margaret Tudor at her baptism.
Elizabeth married her first husband, Sir Humphrey Bourchier, the son and heir of John Bourchier, 1st Baron Berners, and his wife, Margery, in about 1466.

Margaret Bryan, Baroness Bryan (c. 1468 – c. 1551/52) was lady governess to the children of King Henry VIII of England, the future monarchs Mary I, Elizabeth I, and Edward VI, as well as the illegitimate Henry FitzRoy.[1] The position of lady governess in her day resembled less that of the popular modern idea of a governess, more that of a nanny.
Margaret Bourchier was married three times. Her first husband, with whom there may only have been a marriage agreement (a 'pre-contract'), was Sir John Sandys, son of Sir William Sandys of the Vyne.[2] The marriage agreement was signed when Margaret was 10 or 11 years old on 11 November 1478.[2] They had one child.[2]

Elizabeth Carew (née Bryan; c. 1500 – 1546) was an English courtier and reputed mistress of King Henry VIII.
The grant was "to [Elizabeth's] marriage, which by Gods grace shall be espoused to and wedded to Nicholas Carewe, son and heir apparent to Sir Richard Carewe, knight, before the feast of the Purification of Our Blessed Lady the Virgin,"[2] The grant was made on November 7 and both Elizabeth and her mother signed it.[2] Nicholas and Elizabeth were married that December.[2] At that time he was 19 and she was 14.[3] Henry almost certainly arranged their marriage: he attended their wedding and endowed them with a gift of 50 marks' worth of land.[4]

Isabel Carew[3] (born about 1530)
Married Nicholas Saunders. They had three sons and four daughters.
[date of marriage undisclosed]

Anne Bourchier, Baroness Dacre (1470 – 29 September 1530) was an English noblewoman, the wife of Sir Thomas Fiennes, 8th Baron Dacre. Her stepfather was Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey, which made Queen consort Anne Boleyn, the second wife of King Henry VIII of England, her niece. Her son-in-law was Henry Norris, who was executed for treason in 1536, as one of the alleged lovers of her niece, Queen Anne.
In about 1492, she married Sir Thomas Fiennes, 8th Baron Dacre (1472–1534), son of Sir John Fiennes and Alice FitzHugh.

Mary Fiennes (1495–1531) was an English courtier. She was the wife of Henry Norris. Norris was executed for treason as one of the alleged lovers of her cousin, Anne Boleyn, the second wife of King Henry VIII of England. Mary lived for six years at the French court as a Maid of Honour to queens consort Mary Tudor, wife of Louis XII; and Claude of France, wife of Francis I.
In 1520 upon her return to England, she married the courtier, Henry Norreys (1491 – 17 May 1536) of Yattendon in Berkshire, whom she had met that same year at the Field of the Cloth of Gold in France.

Elizabeth Boleyn, Countess of Wiltshire (born Elizabeth Howard; c. 1480 – 3 April 1538) was an English noblewoman, noted for being the mother of Anne Boleyn and as such the maternal grandmother of Elizabeth I of England.
It was while she was at court, that she wed Thomas Boleyn, an ambitious young courtier, sometime before 1500, probably in 1498.

Mary Boleyn, also known as Lady Mary,[1] (c. 1499[2] – 19 July 1543) was the sister of English queen consort Anne Boleyn, whose family enjoyed considerable influence during the reign of King Henry VIII.
Mary was one of the mistresses of Henry VIII for an unknown period. It has been rumoured that she bore two of the King's children, though Henry did not acknowledge either. Mary was also rumoured to have been a mistress of Henry VIII's rival, King Francis I of France, for some period between 1515 and 1519.[3]
Mary Boleyn was married twice: in 1520 to William Carey, and again, secretly, in 1534, to William Stafford, a soldier from a good family but with few prospects.

Catherine Carey, after her marriage Catherine Knollys and later known as both Lady Knollys and Dame Catherine Knollys,[2] (c. 1524 – 15 January 1569), was chief Lady of the Bedchamber to Queen Elizabeth I, who was her first cousin.
Catherine went on to become Maid of Honour to both Anne of Cleves and Catherine Howard, the fourth and fifth wives of Henry VIII. On 26 April 1540 she married Sir Francis Knollys.

Lettice Knollys (/ˈnoʊlz/ NOHLZ, sometimes latinized as Laetitia, alias Lettice Devereux or Lettice Dudley), Countess of Essex and Countess of Leicester (8 November 1543[1] – 25 December 1634), was an English noblewoman and mother to the courtiers Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex, and Lady Penelope Rich. By her second marriage to Elizabeth I's favourite, Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester, she incurred the Queen's unrelenting displeasure.[2][3]
A grandniece of Elizabeth's mother, Anne Boleyn, and close to Elizabeth since childhood, Lettice Knollys was introduced early into court life. At 17 she married Walter Devereux, Viscount Hereford, who in 1572 became Earl of Essex.

Elizabeth Knollys, Lady Leighton (15 June 1549 – c.1605),[1] was an English courtier who served Queen Elizabeth I of England, first as a Maid of Honour and secondly, after 1566, as a Gentlewoman of the Privy Chamber.
Elizabeth Knollys married Sir Thomas Leighton of Feckenham, Worcestershire, son of John Leighton of Wattlesborough in Shropshire and his wife, Joyce Sutton, in 1578.

Anne West, Lady De La Warr (née Knollys) (19 July 1555 – 30 August 1608) was a lady at the court of Queen Elizabeth I of England.
Anne Knollys married, on 19 November 1571, Thomas West, 2nd Baron De La Warr, by whom she had six sons and eight daughters

Elizabeth West (11 September 1573 – 15 January 1633), who married at Wherwell, Hampshire, on 12 February 1594, as his second wife, Herbert Pelham (c.1546 – 12 April 1620), esquire, a widower with two sons and a daughter by his first wife, Katherine Thatcher, by whom she had three sons and six daughters.

Anne West (b. 13 February 1588), who married firstly, by licence dated 30 August 1608, John Pellatt (d. 22 October 1625), esquire, of Bolney, Sussex, by whom she had three daughters; secondly Christopher Swale (d. 7 September 1645), by whom she had a son, Christopher, and a daughter, Elizabeth; and thirdly Leonard Lechford (died c. 29 November 1673), by whom she had no issue.

Penelope West (9 September 1582 – c.1619), who married, about 1599, as his first wife, Herbert Pelham (c.1580 – 13 July 1624)), esquire, of Hastings, Sussex, stepson of Penelope West's elder sister, Elizabeth, by whom she had five sons and four daughters.

Anne Boleyn (/ˈbʊlɪn, bʊˈlɪn/;[7][8][9] c. 1501 or 1507 – 19 May 1536) was Queen of England from 1533 to 1536, as the second wife of King Henry VIII.
Henry and Anne formally married on 25 January 1533, after a secret wedding on 14 November 1532. On 23 May 1533, the newly appointed Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Cranmer declared Henry and Catherine's marriage null and void; five days later, he declared Henry and Anne's marriage valid.


II Joyce Culpeper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Culpeper


Jocasta "Joyce" Culpeper, of Oxon Hoath (c. 1480 – c. 1528) was the mother of Catherine Howard, the fifth wife and Queen consort of King Henry VIII.
Before 1492 Joyce Culpeper married Ralph Leigh (d. 6 November 1509), esquire, the younger brother of her stepfather, Sir John Leigh (d. 17 August 1523).

Catherine Howard (c. 1523 – 13 February 1542), also spelt Katheryn Howard,[b] was Queen of England from 1540 until 1541 as the fifth wife of King Henry VIII.
King Henry and Catherine were married by Bishop Bonner of London at Oatlands Palace on 28 July 1540, the same day Cromwell was executed. She was a teenager and he was 49.

Isabel Leigh, Lady Stumpe (c. 1496 – 16 Feb 1573) was a lady-in-waiting during the reign of her younger half-sister, Catherine Howard, fifth wife and Queen Consort to Henry VIII.
She married Sir Edward Bayntun or Baynton, of Bromham, Wiltshire, on 18 January 1531.

Margaret Howard (d. 10 October 1571), who married Sir Thomas Arundell of Wardour Castle, beheaded on Tower Hill on 26 February 1552, and by him had two sons, Sir Matthew Arundell (d. 24 December 1598) of Wardour Castle, and Charles Arundell (d. 1587), and two daughters, Dorothy, who married Sir Henry Weston, and Jane, who married Sir William Bevyle.[27]
By settlement dated 20 November 1530 Arundell married Margaret Howard (c. 1515 – 10 October 1571), the daughter of Lord Edmund Howard (third son of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk, by his first wife, Elizabeth Tilney), and Joyce Culpeper.


III Alice Haute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Haute


Alice Haute, Lady Fogge (c.1444 – 6/16 August 1512) was an English noblewoman. She was the second wife of Sir John Fogge, and is thought to be the great-grandmother of Catherine Parr the sixth wife of King Henry VIII of England.
In about 1458, Alice married Sir John Fogge as his second wife.

Joan (or Jane) Fogge, Lady Green (c.1469 – c.1490/92-1506) was an English noblewoman. She was the mother of Maud Green,and therefore the maternal grandmother of Catherine Parr the sixth wife of King Henry VIII of England.
At an unknown date, probably in the late 1480s, Joan married Sir Thomas Green, the son of Sir Thomas Greene (d.462) and Matilda (Maud) Throckmorton (c.1425-1496).

Maud Green, Lady Parr (6 April 1490/92 – 1 December 1531)[1] was an English courtier. She was the mother of Catherine Parr, the sixth wife of King Henry VIII of England. She was a close friend and lady-in-waiting to Catherine of Aragon. She was also co-heiress to her father, Sir Thomas Green of Green's Norton in Northamptonshire along with her sister, Anne, Lady Vaux.
Maud had married Sir Thomas Parr, the eldest son of Sir William Parr and Elizabeth FitzHugh, in 1508.

Catherine Parr (she signed her letters as Kateryn; 1512 – 5 September 1548[2][4]) was Queen of England and Ireland as the last of the six wives of King Henry VIII from their marriage on 12 July 1543 until Henry's death on 28 January 1547.

Anne Herbert, Countess of Pembroke, Baroness Herbert of Cardiff (née Parr; 15 June 1515 – 20 February 1552) was lady-in-waiting to each of Henry VIII of England's six wives. She was the younger sister of his sixth wife, Catherine Parr.
In February 1538, Anne married Sir William Herbert, Esquire of the King's Body. Herbert was the son of Sir Richard Herbert, the illegitimate son of William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke.

Anne Green (1489-c.1550 She married Nicholas Vaux, 1st Baron Vaux of Harrowden, son of Sir William Vaux and Katherine Peniston in 1507,


BONUS, as Alice Haute's mother was a Woodeville ...

IV Margaret of Baux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_Baux


Margaret of Baux (French: Marguerite des Baux, Italian: Margherita del Balzo; 1394 – 15 November 1469) was a Countess of Saint-Pol, of Brienne, and of Conversano. She was a member of the noble House of Baux of the Kingdom of Naples, which had its origins in Provence dating back to the 11th century. Her husband was Peter of Luxembourg, Count of Saint-Pol, of Brienne, and of Conversano (1390 – 31 August 1433).
On 8 May 1405, Margaret married Peter of Luxembourg, Count of Saint-Pol,[3] of Brienne, and of Conversano (1390 – 31 August 1433), the eldest son of John of Luxembourg, Lord of Beauvoir and Marguerite of Enghien, Countess of Brienne and of Conversano, Heiress of Enghien.

Jacquetta of Luxembourg (1415 or 1416 – 30 May 1472) was a prominent, though often overlooked, figure in the Wars of the Roses. Through her short-lived first marriage to the Duke of Bedford, brother of King Henry V, she was firmly allied to the House of Lancaster.
On 22 April 1433 at age 17, Jacquetta married John of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Bedford, at Thérouanne.

Elizabeth Woodville (also spelt Wydville, Wydeville, or Widvile;[a] c. 1437[1] – 8 June 1492), later known as Dame Elizabeth Grey, was Queen of England from her marriage to King Edward IV on 1 May 1464 until Edward was deposed on 3 October 1470, and again from Edward's resumption of the throne on 11 April 1471 until his death on 9 April 1483. She was a key figure in the Wars of the Roses, a dynastic civil war between the Lancastrian and the Yorkist factions between 1455 and 1487.
About 1452,[clarification needed] Sir John Grey married Elizabeth Woodville, the eldest daughter of Richard Woodville, 1st Baron Rivers, and Jacquetta of Luxembourg.[1] They had two sons, Thomas, later Marquess of Dorset, born in 1455, and Richard, born in 1457.[2]

Elizabeth of York (11 February 1466 – 11 February 1503) was the Queen of England from her marriage to King Henry VII on 18 January 1486 until her death in 1503.[1] She was the daughter of King Edward IV, and her marriage to Henry VII followed his victory at the Battle of Bosworth Field, which marked the end of the Wars of the Roses. Together, Elizabeth and Henry had seven children.
Because the journey to Rome and back took many months, and because Henry as king wanted to be certain that nobody could claim that his wedding to Elizabeth was unlawful or sinful, the more local application was obeyed first—it was sent to the papal legate for England and Scotland, which returned in January 1486.[25] Cardinal Bourchier, Archbishop of Canterbury, officiated at the wedding of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York on 18 January 1486.[21] Their first son, Arthur, was born on 20 September 1486, eight months after their marriage. Elizabeth of York was crowned queen on 25 November 1487. She gave birth to several more children, but only four survived infancy: Arthur, Margaret, Henry and Mary.

Margaret Tudor (28 November 1489 – 18 October 1541) was Queen of Scotland from 1503 until 1513 by marriage to King James IV. She then served as regent of Scotland during her son's minority, and fought to extend her regency. Margaret was the eldest daughter and second child of King Henry VII of England and Elizabeth of York, and the elder sister of King Henry VIII of England. By her line, the House of Stuart eventually acceded to the throne of England, in addition to Scotland.
Margaret married James IV at the age of 13, in accordance with the Treaty of Perpetual Peace between England and Scotland.

Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox (8 October 1515 – 7 March 1578), was the daughter of the Scottish queen dowager Margaret Tudor and her second husband Archibald Douglas, 6th Earl of Angus, and thus the granddaughter of Henry VII of England. She was the grandmother of James VI and I.
In 1544, Lady Margaret married a Scottish exile, Matthew Stewart, 4th Earl of Lennox (1516–1571), who later became regent of Scotland in 1570–1571.

Mary Tudor (/ˈtjuːdər/; 18 March 1496 – 25 June 1533) was an English princess who was briefly Queen of France as the third wife of King Louis XII. Louis was more than 30 years her senior. Mary was the fifth child of Henry VII of England and Elizabeth of York, and the youngest to survive infancy.
Cardinal Wolsey negotiated a peace treaty with France, and on 9 October 1514, at the age of 18, Mary married the 52-year-old King Louis XII of France at Abbeville.

Frances Grey, Duchess of Suffolk (née Lady Frances Brandon; 16 July 1517 – 20 November 1559), was an English noblewoman. She was the second child and eldest daughter of King Henry VIII's younger sister, Princess Mary, and Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk. She was the mother of Lady Jane Grey, de facto Queen of England and Ireland for nine days (10 July 1553 – 19 July 1553),[1] as well as Lady Katherine Grey and Lady Mary Grey.
In 1533, Frances married Henry Grey, Marquess of Dorset.

Lady Jane Grey (c. 1537 – 12 February 1554), also known as Lady Jane Dudley after her marriage[3] and as the "Nine Days' Queen",[6] was an English noblewoman who claimed the throne of England and Ireland from 10 to 19 July 1553.
On 25 May 1553, the couple were married at Durham House in a triple wedding, in which Jane's sister Katherine was matched with the heir of the Earl of Pembroke, Lord Herbert, and another Katherine, Lord Guildford's sister, with Henry Hastings, the Earl of Huntingdon's heir.

Katherine Seymour, Countess of Hertford (née Lady Katherine Grey; 25 August 1540 – 26 January 1568)[1][2] was a younger sister of Lady Jane Grey.
Some time before August 1552, Katherine Grey was betrothed to Henry, Lord Herbert, heir apparent to William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke.[5] In 1553, as King Edward VI was dying, the King and his Chief Minister, John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland, planned to exclude Edward's sister Mary Tudor from the succession in favour of Katherine's elder sister, Lady Jane Grey.

Lady Mary Keyes (née Grey; 20 April 1545[1] – 20 April 1578) was the youngest daughter of Henry Grey, 1st Duke of Suffolk, and Frances Brandon, and through her mother had a claim on the crown of England.
Despite the disastrous consequences of her sister Katherine's secret marriage, Mary also now married without the Queen's permission. On 16 July 1565,[9] while the Queen was absent attending the marriage of her kinsman, Sir Henry Knollys[10] (d. 21 December 1582), and Margaret Cave, the daughter of Sir Ambrose Cave,[11] Mary secretly married the Queen's sergeant porter, Thomas Keyes, son of Richard Keyes, esquire, of East Greenwich, Kent, by Agnes Saunders, the daughter of Henry Saunders of Ewell, Surrey.

Eleanor Clifford, Countess of Cumberland (née Lady Eleanor Brandon; 1519 – 27 September 1547) was the third child and second daughter of Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk and Princess Mary Tudor, the Dowager Queen consort of France.
Eleanor married Clifford in June 1535; her uncle King Henry VIII was present.

Margaret Stanley, Countess of Derby (née Lady Margaret Clifford; 1540 – 28 September 1596) was the only surviving daughter of Henry Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland and Lady Eleanor Brandon. Her maternal grandparents were Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk and Mary Tudor, Queen of France. Mary was the third daughter of King Henry VII of England and Elizabeth of York.
Margaret joined Mary's court and married Henry Stanley, 4th Earl of Derby on 7 February 1555 in the Chapel Royal at Whitehall Palace.

Cecily of York (20 March 1469 – 24 August 1507), also known as Cecelia,[2] was the third daughter of King Edward IV of England and his queen consort Elizabeth Woodville.
Spouse Ralph Scrope 1/3 (m. 1485; annulled 1486)

Anne of York (2 November 1475 – 23 November 1511), was the fifth daughter of King Edward IV of England and his queen consort Elizabeth Woodville.
Spouse Thomas Howard (m. 1494/95; her death)

Catherine of York (14 August 1479 – 15 November 1527), was the sixth daughter of King Edward IV of England and his queen consort Elizabeth Woodville.
In 1495, Catherine was married to William Courtenay, son and heir of the Earl of Devon, an ardent supporter of Henry VII.
In 1502, Catherine's husband was suspected of being involved in the conspiracy of the House of York pretender to the throne, Edmund de la Pole, and was soon arrested, deprived of his property and rights to inherit and transfer his father's titles and possessions to his children. Catherine herself, thanks to the patronage of her sister, remained at large. After the death of Henry VII in April 1509, the new king forgave William Courtenay and returned his confiscated estates to him; Catherine's father-in-law also soon died. In May 1511, William Courtenay was restored in his title of Earl of Devon, but a month later he died of pleurisy.
Left a widow at the age of thirty-one, Catherine took a vow of celibacy.

Lady Margaret Courtenay (c. 1499 – before 1526) was the only daughter of William Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon and Catherine of York.
Firstly, by papal dispensation dated 15 June 1514, to Lady Margaret Courtenay, daughter of William Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon, by Catherine of York, daughter of Edward IV, King of England. Margaret died before 15 April 1526. Some sources say the union produced no children.

Anne Woodville, Viscountess Bourchier (c. 1438 – 30 July 1489) was an English noblewoman. She was a younger sister of Queen Consort Elizabeth Woodville to whom she served as a lady-in-waiting. Anne was married twice; first to William Bourchier, Viscount Bourchier, and secondly to George Grey, 2nd Earl of Kent. Anne was the grandmother of the disinherited adulteress Anne Bourchier, 7th Baroness Bourchier, and an ancestress of Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex.
Sometime before 15 August 1467, Anne married William Bourchier, Viscount Bourchier, the son and heir of Henry Bourchier, 1st Earl of Essex, and Isabel of York.

Mary Woodville, Countess of Pembroke (c. 1456–1481) was a sister of Edward IV's Queen consort, Elizabeth Woodville, and of Anthony Woodville, 2nd Earl Rivers. She later became the first wife of William Herbert, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, by whom she had one daughter.
In January 1467, Mary Woodville was married to Lord Dunster at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle "amid profuse magnificence."[citation needed] The bride was about ten or eleven years old; her groom, aged fifteen.

Elizabeth Herbert, 3rd Baroness Herbert (c. 1476 – 27 August 1507) was the sole heir and daughter of William Herbert, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, and his first wife, Mary Woodville.
She was made a ward of King Henry VII of England, and married Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester on 2 June 1492.

Catherine Woodville (also spelled Wydville, Wydeville, or Widvile[nb 1]) (c. 1458[1] – 18 May 1497[2]) was the Duchess of Buckingham and a medieval English noblewoman.
Sometime before the coronation of Elizabeth in May 1465, Catherine was married to Henry Stafford, 2nd Duke of Buckingham; both were still children.

Elizabeth Stafford, Countess of Sussex (c. 1479 – 11 May 1532) was an English noblewoman.
Elizabeth Stafford married, shortly after 23 July 1505, Robert Radcliffe, later the 1st Earl of Sussex, by whom she had three sons

Lady Anne Hastings, Countess of Huntingdon (née Anne Stafford) (c. 1483–1544) was an English noble. She was the daughter of Henry Stafford, 2nd Duke of Buckingham, and Catherine Woodville, sister of queen consort Elizabeth Woodville. She was first the wife of Sir Walter Herbert and then George Hastings, 1st Earl of Huntingdon, and served in the household of King Henry VIII's daughter, the future Queen Mary I
Anne Stafford married firstly, in 1503,[citation needed] Sir Walter Herbert (d. 16 September 1507),[9] an illegitimate[10] son of William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke.[11] The marriage was childless.
She married secondly, in December 1509,[citation needed] George Hastings, 1st Earl of Huntingdon.


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Married before sixteen, between 14 and 22 out of 53. 26.415 to 41.509 %. When Charles III or Elizabeth II gave Royal Assent to raising the marital age from 16 to 18, either of them was insulting lots of men in the own royal history as "pedophiles" .../HGL