Monday, March 9, 2020

Brenda Weltner Considers the Apocalypse Has More Story-Lines than One

A Kingdom of Priests: The Stories of Revelation
by Brenda Weltner (Author)

Through a series of visions given to the apostle John, God has given us a detailed account of what to expect during the time of the end...including specific dates for the 2nd Coming of Christ, the rapture of believers, when the Seals will be broken...and more!

She may be wrong in reading the Millennium in chapter 20 as sth which we are still waiting for, unlike St. Augustine who says the First Resurrection is about souls resurrecting from sin, and the binding of the Devil happened on Calvary, and "the end of the thousand years" is by contrast a parallel or partly even prequel to events in previous chapters.

But she would clearly be right in saying there are more than one vision. Let's just count the times in which St. John is "in spiritu":

Fui in spiritu in dominica die, et audivi post me vocem magnam tamquam tubae,

I was in the spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 1:10]

Et statim fui in spiritu: et ecce sedes posita erat in caelo, et supra sedem sedens.

And immediately I was in the spirit: and behold there was a throne set in heaven, and upon the throne one sitting.
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 4:2]

Et abstulit me in spiritu in desertum. Et vidi mulierem sedentem super bestiam coccineam, plenam nominibus blasphemiae, habentem capita septem, et cornua decem.

And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 17:3]

"Et sustulit me in spiritu in montem magnum et altum, et ostendit mihi civitatem sanctam Jerusalem descendentem de caelo a Deo,"

And he took me up in spirit to a great and high mountain: and he shewed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God,
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 21:10]

It may be noted in connection with the second time, 4:2, that 4:1 changes a given from chapter 1.

1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to make known to his servants the things which must shortly come to pass: and signified, sending by his angel to his servant John,

4:1 After these things I looked, and behold a door was opened in heaven, and the first voice which I heard, as it were, of a trumpet speaking with me, said: Come up hither, and I will shew thee the things which must be done hereafter.

So, chapter 1 says it is about things which must shortly come to pass, and Challoner comments on this aspect, most aptly:

... That some things were to come to pass shortly, is evident, by what is said to the Seven Churches, chap. 2 and 3, ...

And yes, in chapter 4, we are told from the outset, we no longer deal with things prophecied to the seven Churches in chapters 1 to 3, but of things which "must be done hereafter".

So, one cannot for instance conclude from Apocalypse 1:1 that Apocalypse 19 was going to happen very soon, since between 1:1 and chapter 19, we have 4:1, changing the perspective from "shortly" to "hereafter".

Other words that can signal the beginning of a vision would be "I saw" or "and I saw" so I searched "et vidi". These verses - not quoting the content - contain either "et vidi" or "vidi" and "et" or "vidi", and are in the Apocalypse:

1:12 and 4:1 and 5:1 and 5:2 and 5:6 and 5:11 and 6:1 and 6:2 and 6:9 and 6:12 and 7:1 and 7:2 and 7:9 and 8:2 and 8:13 and 9:1 and 9:17 and 10:1 and 10:5 and 13:1 and 13:2 and 13:3 and 13:11 and 14:1 and 14:6 and 14:14 and 15:1 and 15:2 and 15:5 and 16:13 and 17:3 and 17:6 and 18:1 and 19:11 and 19:17 and 19:19 and 20:1 and 20:4 and 20:11 and 20:12 and 21:1 and 21:2 and 21:22 and 22:8.

All would perhaps not be beginning a vision, some would perhaps just be introducing a new aspect of an already ongoing vision, but there are 44 overall.

This is in fact a fairly good indication Brenda Weltner is right that the work is a series of visions. Just like parts of Exodus and Leviticus are a series of Mosaic auditions "and God spoke to Moses and said".

I had given her a suggestion for the title, she ignored it, fine, her own title is not bad either. My suggestion refers to the fact that she is way better than the guys who consider "1260 prophetic days" as equal to so many actual years. She makes it clear, it is so many actual days.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Bpi, Georges Pompidou
St. Frances of Rome

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