Thursday, October 15, 2009

"this honorable foundation"???

< harrypotterfoundations@foundation.org >

Till: okända-mottagare:
=to undisclosed recipients


Dear Selected personality.

We the harry potter foundation wishes to anounce to you that,sequel toyour email profile,you have been selected in your state by this honorable foundation to disburse a reasonable amount of (£1,000.000.00) (one MillionGBP) to the less privellege.


Is HARRY POTTER FOUNDATION SUPPOSED TO BE HONOURABLE? (Quite apart from the obvious that this is a scam.)

"If God spoke a language" - to correct Grimm

Noam Chomsky Between the Human and Natural Sciences

Frits Staal
University of California at Berkeley :

Scroll down to 3 about Noam Chomsky and the so called exact sciences, § 2:

A century and a half ago, a debate was raging about the question whether God spoke Hebrew. Jacob Grimm, one of the brothers to whom we owe the collection of fairy tales, pointed out gently that if God spoke language, any language, we must assume that he had teeth, but since teeth were not created for speech but for eating, we must assume that he also ate, and this leads to so many other undesirable assumptions that we better abandon the idea altogether (1851, reprint 1958:28).


You forget, dear Grimm: dental sounds may have existed in Gods idea before there were teeth. Light existed before the sun, the moon and the stars above earth. But God did indeed eventually grow teeth, as well as start eating, so we must assume there was laundry going on in Bethlehem, and cooking in Egypt and Nazareth.

A Spanish scholar assuming that God spoke indeed Hebrew concluded that the first name of The Word - he who became flesh in the pure virgins blessed womb - was dabar, a word meaning word and which begins with a dental.

St Anna Katharina Emmerich had another idea given in her visions, Hebrew was one language God created for Heber who did not partake in the building of Babel. §§ 3, 4:

Upon Heber who, as we have said, took no part in the work, God cast His eyes; and amid the general disorder and corruption, He set him and his posterity apart as a holy nation. God gave him also a new and holy language possessed by no other nation, that thereby his race should be cut off from communication with all others.

This language was the pure Hebrew, or Chaldaic. The first tongue, the mother tongue, spoken by Adam, Shem, and Noah, was different, and it is now extant only in isolated dialects. Its first pure offshoots are the Zend, the sacred tongue of India, and the language of the Bactrians. In those languages, words may be found exactly similar to the Low German of my native place.



Thank Wikipedia for bringing these quotes to my atention, the article concluding that Anna Katharina Emmerich had identified the first language with Proto-Indo-European. Maybe - if so the punishment of Babel was for Indo-Europeans a miraculous speed up in langage change and language split. Or maybe not. Tolkien explores the idea of an elfin language which is source of Non-Indo-European words of some, usually Indo-European, languages of Northern Europe, leading back Lithuanian "ranka" (=Greek χειρ) and Icelandic "alft" (=swan) back to Quenya words ranca and alqua. The question whether the words alluded to are Indo-European roots or not cannot be decided unless some other document describes which particular words she meant.


Hans-Georg Lundahl,
15 octobre 2009,
ste Theresa d'Avila,
à Emmaüs (Paris I)
et à G. Pompidou (Paris IV)

Thursday, September 10, 2009

Non, Noël ne "coincide pas plus ou moins" avec les Saturnalies! (et Toussaints n'est pas Samhain, voir commentaires)

Historia, sept-oct 2008, p. 67

À propos de Saturne:

... et son culte comporte une délicieuse fête qui commence le 17 décembre et dure six à sept jours (solstice d'hiver).



À propos de Jésus:

... la célébration de sa naissance en vint à coïncider plus ou moins avec la fête romaine traditionnelle du solstice d'hiver.



Quelle sornette complette!

Les Saturnalies finissaient le 22 ou 23 décembre, tandis que Noël commençait et commence le soir avant le 25. Et il était précédé (comme toujours chez les Orthodoxes et les Uniates) par une jeûne très stricte, et comme d'habitude dans les carêmes, c'était la dernière semaine la plus stricte de la période de jeûne. Loin de coïncider avec les Saturnalies, Noël était préparés par une jeûne qui en excluait la célébration.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Paris IV, BpI G. Pompidou
28 août/10 sept A. D. 2009

Saturday, September 5, 2009

Accusative and Dative for English speakers ...

found on a website featuring a lol-picture from HaHaStop.com :

"sometimes when I am sad I like to cut myself ...

... another slice of cheesecake"


The bad sense of the sentence is when you take "myself" for an accusative. When you add some other noun ("slice of cheesecake"), that becomes the accusative and "myself" becomes the dative and it is all all right.

Friday, August 21, 2009

Est-ce Mille et Une Nuits? Hauff? Karl May? Non ...

... c'est Saint Eustache, sa biographie officielle. Néanmoins ça n'est pas sans rappeler mainte aventure des Alif Laila Wa Laila ou de Karl May ou de Hauff.

When Tolkien wrote "On fairie-stories" he said that any fairy tale is like a serving of soup from a very big kettle that has been boiling for very long, and the original ingredients ultimately come from --- reality. Like the life of St Eustace.

Is Boromir a mimsy borogove?

"borogove mimsy"="borogóv mimzi"
"borogov mimzi" (delete second of two nasals)
"borogov mimzi" (delete second of two voiced stops)
"borogov mimzi" (delete second/last of two/three identical vowels)
OR, if you insist on vowel length (borogove=borogóv):
"borogóv mimzi" (delete second of two exactly identical vowels)

which leaves us with:

borogov mimzi
OR:
borogóv mimzi

= boro miz or boró miz
z > r (rhotacism)



BUT. "Mimsy Borogoves" are nonsense words. "Boromir" has been given a meaning: 'faithful jewel' (source Tolkienwiki > search > Boromir).

If Lewis Carroll indulged in non-sense syllables, Tolkien indulged even more (since his elven glossary entries, even in just one of the major languages, probably by far outnumber the crypto-English glossary that could be made from The Hunting of the Snark*) in giving sense to his syllables.

Let us presume, I did not look up the meanings of the roots, it is boro that means faithful and mir that means jewel. I would not let mimsy mean faithful, and I hesitate to call things generally as small as jewels borogoves. So if this is where Tolkien came up with Boromir, he let adjective become noun and noun adjective. But the point is: there is something about "mimsy" which is repugnant to making it mean "faithful", there is nothing repugnant in making "mir" mean "jewel", there is something repugnant in making "borogove" mean "jewel", except a very big and costly such (thrones, crowns, scepters, Arkenstone - possibly, rings - no), there is nothing repugnant in making "boro" mean "faithful". Which is a point against the total arbitrariness of the relation of sound and meaning.


Hans-Georg Lundahl
Paris IV - G. Pompidou
8/21 august A. D. 2009



*oops, that may be Jabberwocky I was thinking about!

OTHER UPDATE: the deletion rules above are what might have been contributing consciously or unconsciously to the invention of either name Boromir or elements it was made of in Tolkien's life, and are of course no more soundlaws for Quenya or Sindarin than cow > woc, how > hoc are internal soundlaws of Nevbosh.

Friday, August 7, 2009

When was Beowulf written?

We do not know.

My very personal* hunch: since it stresses the heroism of the Geats, as well as their religious ignorance - "they knew not their Maker" in modern translation, and neither did they expect resurrection but burned Beowulf on a pyre like Hektor at the end of the Iliad - it was maybe written to inspire missionaries to go from England to ... nowadays it is The Hising island, Gothenburg, and so on.

Like Pope Gregory who had a dialogue about some slaves he then bought free:


- Qui sunt?
- Angli.
- Non Angli sed Angeli. Cuius regni sunt?
- Deira.
- De ira Dei ad gratiam Christi vocati sunt. Quid est nomen regi eorum?
- Ælla.
- Alleluia ibi cantabitur.



Now it was the turn of the English to have that charity for Westrogothia and Ostrogothia in what now is called Sweden.

*J R R Tolkien may have agreed. I am not sure I am not repeating some halfforgotten thing.