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Friday, May 16, 2025
Who Destroyed the Régime of Czar Nicolas II?
To some degree, one can say that World War I was the autodestruction of Rome.
West Roman Emperors Francis Joseph II and Charles I against the East Roman Emperor Nicolas II.
So, World War I was a very huge thing. About Austria-Hungary with successor states obviously too.
But some have said, Czar Nicolas got destroyed by Rasputin's influence. Obviously, Rasputin was not a brigade of Austrian or Prussian soldiers.
In so far as there was an internal cause, independent of World War I, and added to it, I would prefer putting Sergei Witte in the position than Rasputin.
I agree with Lyndon LaRouche on many things. But Sergei Witte wanted to industrialise, and while this added the presence of produced goods, it neglected agriculture.
A man who wanted to describe Lenin as an evil man, which I think he was, noted there was a starvation in the Volga area. Lenin's sister and other family members were in the relief force, but Lenin said "fine, this has revolutionary potential" .... I disagree with "fine" but agree this was part of what doomed Czar Russia. Industrial Capitalism, i e Sergei Witte.
If potatoes grow badly in Ireland, perhaps those growing them could instead eat wheat, which they were also growing? Nope. The landowners wanted the usual monetary gains from selling the wheat.
In Czar Russia's case, second manmade starvation of apocalyptic proportions, between Potato Famine and Holodomor, the landowners wanted quick profits to invest in Sergei Witte's industrial ventures. While doing so, they neglected the farms.
If Rasputin made the Czar impopular with any, it was with people who were arguably part of the problem. I highly doubt any Мужик ever had less to eat because of Rasputin's advice, but when Sergei Witte told people left and right to invest into industry, I think this led to many of them neglecting the agriculture they were doing routinely, and that fields were abandoned in the process, leading to the starvation that gave the people the impression that God wasn't blessing the leaders of Russia.
I don't think either Turgot or Necker contributed as much to the bad harvests in France as Witte to those in Russia (especially Volga valley — Ukraine was more spared, as it was less industrialised, and would have been more spared in 1932—33 as well, if their good harvests, and those in Kuban, hadn't been displaced by force in order to make a giant Potemkin village of the Volga area, where the capital now was. A Potemkin village to show that yes, industrialism is fine, the Czar was simply not very good at it, Commies are better. The price of this Potemkin village is in Ukraine known as Holodomor.
In fact, if Rasputin did anything, with the people, healing the Czarevitch (or keeping him alive or even effecting nothing, but having an air of doing so) was rather an asset compared to Lewis XVI and Marie-Antoinette losing a daughter in 1787 and a Dauphin, an oldest son, in 1789.
Now, Rasputin was obviously impopular with the élite, but they could not have pulled off anything like the Russian Revolution all by themselves, without some solid misery among the people. The Bloody Sunday of 1905 (namegiver for another Bloody Sunday in 1972 and a song by US), was before Rasputin had met the Czar and while Witte was in power. Starvation, Russo-Japanese war, repression of 1905, World War I, losses on their West front (the Prussian East front), drafts during losses, all of these have some more connection to Witte than to Rasputin. Unless you argue the Czar's alliance with Serbia was Rasputin's doing, but so far I have not heard that version.
The Czarevitch was simply not anything comparable to the Mayerling drama, which led to some overreaction after Francis Ferdinand was assassinated (roughly speaking between Lincoln and Kennedy). Supporting a mystic couldn't give the Czar and Czaritsa any such aura of "Madame Déficit" as slander about jewelry gave Marie-Antoinette.
If Rasputin changed anything for the Czar family, apart from emotional support about the Czarevitch, it was possibly preparing them to meat their death in a fashion approaching martyrdom, rather than in vain bitterness. I don't know.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. John Nepomuk
16.V.2025
Pragae, in Bohemia, sancti Joannis Nepomuceni, Metropolitanae Ecclesiae Canonici; qui, frustra tentatus ut sigilli sacramentalis fidem proderet, martyrii palmam, in flumen Moldavam dejectus, emeruit.
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Friday, April 25, 2025
People forget what things mean, specifically words and phrases
And while it would be good form to lightheartedly go through a number of fun but insignificant examples, that's what Chesterton would have done, I'm too tired to think of them and will get to the point.
I happen to like Liz Wheeler, who's interviewing Jimmy Akin (a likeable person with some very good takes in theology leading to his conversion and some very bad one in the case of the nature of inerrancy). So, I look her up. 35, has a husband, has two children, started podcasting in 2020.
AND:
In January 2023, following football player Damar Hamlin's in-game collapse, Wheeler promoted a conspiracy theory that the COVID-19 vaccine was responsible for a "surge" in athlete deaths and injuries.
Can you spot what's wrong, what phrase is being misused?
Conspiracy theory. A conspiracy theory means a result (usually considered unpleasant or dangerous or both by the conspiracy theorist) that is in mainstream media (including public schools as much as big newspapers) attributed to well informed decisions, chance interaction, small players, is in reality the result of some big players conspiring. If Arizona Cardinals lost a match, and someone Catholic, football fanatic and living in Phoenix said "Rockefeller has Calvinist roots, so he conspired to bribe the umpire to let the team with Catholic symbolism lose" that would be a conspiracy theory. If I replied that the match was in 2013 and a symbol of the college of cardinals losing it and so an actual judgement by God, that would not be a conspiracy theory. It may be as ridiculous as a conspiracy theory. But it is not a conspiracy theory. Because it doesn't involve an actual conspiracy about the Arizona Cardinals.
So, "Mussolini caused the death of Matteotti" is a conspiracy theory. "King Victor Emmanuel III caused the death of Matteotti" is a conspiracy theory. The latter is the one favoured by Matteotti's son, by the way, and no, Matteotti's son, like his father, is a socialist, not a Fascist. But why is it a conspiracy theory? Well, because X who "caused the death" did so by hiring some less in the limelight person to do the dirty job for him. Amerigo Dumini is no doubt less in the limelight than Il Duce. He's also less in the limelight than King Victor Emmanuel III. Il Duce could have a motive insofar as Matteotti had denounced elections. King Victor Emmanuel III could have a motive insofar as Matteotti wanted transparency on a petrol deal. When Amerigo Dumini's judges in, I think 1947, had more reasons to smear Mussolini than to smear the King who died that year sentenced him (for the second time) for the murder of Matteotti, they stated that the order was given him by Mussolini.
I would like to know what was written with notaries in Texas, or if Amerigo Dumini was bluffing, back after his release.
Freed in 1927, Amerigo Dumini left for Italian Somaliland, having been awarded a large state pension (5,000 lire). Apparently, he was still viewed as troublesome, since he was detained and interned on the Tremiti Islands. Meanwhile, he warned General Emilio De Bono that he had filed a manuscript detailing Matteotti's murder with notaries in Texas. This claim led to his release and an increase in pension to as much as 50,000 lire. He left for Italian Libya, where his pension was further increased by 2,500 lire (together with a single payment of 125,000 lire).
Well, this at least would involve either of the conspiracy theories being true, since the paying of the pension would imply that someone very important in Italy (Mussolini and Victor Emmanuel III, as Prime Minister and as King, both fit that bill) wanted the papers in Texas not to be disclosed. I wonder if they ever were, and if the judgement in 1947 was based on them, or on any statement by Dumini.
But either of these things, "Mussolini caused the death of Matteotti" and "King Victor Emmanuel III caused the death of Matteotti", is a conspiracy theory, not just because it goes beyond the obvious cause, Dumini. BUT. Because it also does so by means of a supposed criminal conspiracy.
Now, what about the statement "the COVID-19 vaccine was responsible for a "surge" in athlete deaths and injuries"? Is that a conspiracy theory? No. The COVID-19 vaccine is not supposed to be a person. Is not supposed to enter a criminal conspiracy. It is therefore very literally not a conspiracy theory. It is a medical theory. And, when it comes to personal caution, I think it's the kind of medical theory each and every person has the right to entertain and to advice others on. It's not an advice for a specific treatment, it's not medical advice that only medical practitioners can give. But right or wrong, legal or illegal, it is definitely not a conspiracy theory. People should start to remember what words mean.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Easter Octave Friday
25.IV.2025
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Wednesday, April 16, 2025
Does The Spanish Princess Misrepresent Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scots?
My daughter is like a commodity #movie #music #the Spanish princess
Many Sheldon | 104 k views
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_jFmbg1cb9Y
This is arguably a clip from The Spanish Princess. I look it up, yes, Georgie Henley is playing Margaret Tudor in The Spanish Princess, so, I look up Margaret Tudor to find out ...
First. She was born in 1489, on the 28th of November. She married by procuration in 1502 and in real life in 1503, her first husband being James IV of Scotland. As they were married on the 8th of August, she wasn't yet 14. So, for some modern minds, an ideal candidate to illustrate the idea that royal marriages were arranged and in practise forced marriages. Or indeed that girls marrying around 14 had arranged and in practise forced marriages.
Second, no. She was not shellshocked to find out that she was marrying the Scottish King in her teens. Her father had played around with this since she was 6 or somewhat earlier. In 1497, when she was 8, a truce was made with Scotland. Any raids around the border either ceased or ceaesed to be endorsed by the Scottish King. By the time she was twelve, when the marriage by procuration was concluded, she had known about the plan for long and England and Scotland had had a truce longer and better respected than that between Gaza and the Knesset.
Third, no again. This is what ticked me off. 1502 (I didn't know the exact year, but knew it was before the Deformation), England and Scotland were Catholic countries. Unlike a Jewish girl younger than 12 years and one day, a Catholic girl couldn't get married by the word of her father. She had a say. Yes, even if she were a teen. Or just twelve. It may seem outlandish to some modern parents to allow a twelve year old girl to take major decisions in her life, they would be imposed by dad and mum, and if for some reason marriage was there, they would conclude that marriage too was imposed, as in the daughter really having no say. Well, no. Sum of Theology, Supplement to the Third Part, Question 47, Article 3, I'm citing the authority and the explanation only first:
Article 3. Whether compulsory consent invalidates a marriage?
...
On the contrary, A Decretal says (cap. Cum locum, De sponsal. et matrim.): "Since there is no room for consent where fear or compulsion enters in, it follows that where a person's consent is required, every pretext for compulsion must be set aside." Now mutual contract is necessary in marriage. Therefore, etc.
Further, Matrimony signifies the union of Christ with the Church, which union is according to the liberty of love. Therefore it cannot be the result of compulsory consent.
I answer that, The marriage bond is everlasting. Hence whatever is inconsistent with its perpetuity invalidates marriage. Now the fear which compels a constant man deprives the contract of its perpetuity, since its complete rescission can be demanded. Wherefore this compulsion by fear which influences a constant man, invalidates marriage, but not the other compulsion. Now a constant man is reckoned a virtuous man who, according to the Philosopher (Ethic. iii, 4), is a measure in all human actions.
However, some say that if there be consent although compulsory, the marriage is valid in conscience and in God's sight, but not in the eyes of the Church, who presumes that there was no inward consent on account of the fear. But this is of no account, because the Church should not presume a person to sin until it be proved; and he sinned if he said that he consented whereas he did not consent. Wherefore the Church presumes that he did consent, but judges this compulsory consent to be insufficient for a valid marriage.
I would further say, this is one of the things that Sts. Lucy and Barbara died for. In the Pagan Roman world, in theory also the marriage was contracted freely, but this was not quite respected. Indeed, the patron saint of Margaret Tudor, in whose Church she was baptised, was also a martyr for opposing an unwanted marriage, though in her case the adoptive parent was set aside by the Roman prefect.
St. Margaret Virgin and martyr; also called MARINA; belonged to Pisidian Antioch in Asia Minor, where her father was a pagan priest. Her mother dying soon after her birth, Margaret was nursed by a pious woman five or six leagues from Antioch. Having embraced Christianity and consecrated her virginity to God, she was disowned by her father and adopted by her nurse.
While she was one day engaged in watching the flocks of her mistress, a lustful Roman prefect named Olybrius caught sight of her, and attracted by her great beauty sought to make her his concubine or wife.
...
The Greek Church honors her under the name Marine on 13 July; the Latin, as Margaret on 20 July. ...
So, no. If Margaret Tudor had said "no, I won't" (or "just like that?") she would NOT have been met with "you knew that one day a husband would be chosen for you" ... the person seemingly mother of Margaret* is also off. Margaret's real mother was Elisabeth of York, and she died when Margaret was still married by procuration, in England, namely at age 37. A woman of 37 doesn't look that wrinkled. Even if one late pregnancy too many was what killed her (she died in puerperal fever, i e infection after childbirth, when her last daughter was 7 days old).
This may be the key why the marriage may have been consumed some time later, she was still in mourning after her mother had died. I am no expert on the case, I do not have the books written about her, but it sometimes happened that marriages concluded early in the age of the bride were delayed in consummation, and wikipedia notes the first child of Margaret as Queen consort of Scotland was born in 1507. However, it could also be, it took time for her to get pregnant, but if not, recall, her mother had died before she left England and she suffered from nosebleeds for a while.
Did Margaret ever want to divorce? Yes, but that was her second husband, as she was a widow. Part of it was, there was a rumour that James IV hadn't really died at Flodden, so she doubted she was really a widow. If she hadn't been, I suppose he was killed, that would have made her second marriage invalid.
So, the scene in The Spanish Princess seems to have been written, while the parents aren't absolute monsters, only about as monstrous as some parents to teens these days, by people who had watched too much Game of Thrones. It's not a documentary, not even about the War of the Roses. And while the moral dissonance from what are now conceived as human values, and rightly so as far as horror from forced marriage is concerned, is far less than in Game of Thrones, it's still an extra layer of unnecessary moral distance.
Before I end, there is one more part of the Aquinas article I want to share. Objection 2 and its answer:
Objection 2. Further, according to the Philosopher (Ethic. iii, 1), that which is done on account of mixed violence is more voluntary than involuntary. Now consent cannot be compelled except by mixed violence. Therefore it is not entirely involuntary, and consequently the marriage is valid.
...
Reply to Objection 2. Not any kind of voluntariness suffices for marriage: it must be completely voluntary, because it has to be perpetual; and consequently it is invalidated by violence of a mixed nature.
Annulments due to lack of consent happened, and were somewhat scandalous. The parents of Margaret Tudor would not have wanted to risk that.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Maundy Thursday
17.IV.2025
* It seems this was not Elisabeth of York, but someone who spoke to "the Spanish Princess" (Catherine of Aragon) as regent after the death of Elisabeth of York. My bad. It would be Lady Margaret Beaufort, the most important lady after Elisabeth of York died. However, as she died at only 66, I don't think even so she would be that wrinkled. It's not as if "51 then was" (overall) "like 75 now" as someone said, it's more like women dying younger because of untreated breast cancer and things.
Wednesday, April 2, 2025
How Do We Know History?
Creation vs. Evolution: Forrest Valkai Debunked Will Spencer, or So He Thought · Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: How Do We Know History?
It's one of these topics where a Christian and an Atheist (or for that matter very vague Theist) are not likely to agree.
Here an ex-Christian is giving his point of view:
Do Apologists Prove Anything? Why Christian Arguments Fail? The Bible Is NOT Reliable As History.
DEBUNKING CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM | 24 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD5_5QpCBd0
- 5:34 — 5:50 sth
- "they are not doing historical research, they are taking the Biblical story as true to begin with, accepting the supernatural myth as true to begin with, and then trying to manipulate the actual historical facts to make them fit their world view, which is based on non-facts"
History is an art of finding (or keeping) a reliable source, and drawing facts out of it. Or more reliable sources.
Reliable being to some degree subjective in evaluation, this means, not all will agree on what sources are reliable.
But here we have a man taking "the actual historic facts" as sourced in any material outside the Bible and outside the supernatural, and more specifically summaries by modern historians or archaeologists.
If one knew from a philosophical or religious viewpoint that the Bible were wrong, one would not have the right to presume the Bible reliable on all, but it would not automatically presume the Bible unreliable on history.
Now, one actually doesn't know the Bible wrong from a religious or philosophical viewpoint even in theology. But even if one were on the edge, even if one were not sure about the Bible being right, two things should stand out:
- one would have to consider the Bible on an a priori equal footing with other ancient texts
- one would have to consider the evidence for miracles on an equal footing with evidence for other events.
And if one wanted to go further, consider how much of the Biblical miracles are proof of how much of the Christian theology. But that's another enquiry beyond the strictly historic one.
However. Charles Hurst does not agree. He's a very vague Theist. To him, the historic facts are what we, the public get from "legitimate historians" who have for rather long now (since Prussia, a power steeped in Scepticism, a culture where Voltaire left his mark on Sanssouci) "held" the miraculous and the Bible "at bay". As if they were harmful things. They have in other words "defended" their Historian's craft from "undue" influence from the Bible or from acceptance of miracles.
Part of the background is a philosophy steeped in Kant. To him, as to Hume, empiric historic facts do not support supernatural claims. This is purely a decision a priori, a decision, not an observation. It probably started with wanting to avoid becoming Catholic on hearing of Catholic miracles in the present (Hume was part time in France). Both Hume and Kant were Protestants, the Anglican and the Calvinist or possibly Lutheran.
Those people set the tone for what's "academically correct" and Charles Hurst thinks it's logically correct to follow that prejudice.
I do not. I would not take that tone even for Pagan sources.
History is about sources, texts, written, oral, or even oral and later written down. They are usually narrative. Non-narrative texts and non-textual artefacts give back-ground. They are not the main source of certitude, they provide a filter. But that source of "a filter" should not be confused with the filter from a non-Christian world view. So, he says that after seeing archaeological facts about Jericho, Tim Mahoney and David Rohl "make up facts" (beyond those of archaeology) "to fit the square peg in the round hole" (of the Bible being true). Well, what Charles Hurst calls "make up facts" is what is more usually referred to a making hypotheses. And when it comes to the purpose, to show the Bible being true, that involves treating the Bible as at least a historical source. Which one should anyway. If its statement fit the other sources of information about Jericho, that's more usually referred to as a confirmation. But to a man like Charles Hurst, when confirmations go the direction of confirming the Bible, one would need extreme confirmation bias to accept that confirmation.
You see, everyone has some kind of confirmation bias, including the most anti-Biblical scholar. I simply disagree it is of the more extreme or useless kind when accepting the Bible or Christianity or miracles.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Abbess St. Fare of Faremoutiers
3.IV.2025
Eboriaci, in territorio Meldensi, sanctae Burgundofarae, etiam Farae nomine appellatae, Abbatissae et Virginis.
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Sunday, March 30, 2025
What About the Opposite?
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: Black Magic in Shimao and Ur · More Like the Same? · What About the Opposite? · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Gospel against Cannibalism and Accusation thereof. · A Video on St. Patrick, an Observation on the Demons he Drove out
Rue de Bac, La Salette, Lourdes, Fátima, Hrushiv ...
Chapel of Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal, 48.850974°N 2.323770°E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Chapel_of_Our_Lady_of_the_Miraculous_Medal¶ms=48.850974_N_2.323770_E_scale:5000
48.850974°N 92.323770°E
In Mongolia, East of Astana, South of Krasnoyarsk
48.850974°N 87.67623°W
Close to McGarvey Shoal, Ontario Canada
48.850974°N 177.67623°W
Just South of Alaska Panhandle
Sanctuaire de Notre-Dame de La Salette, 44° 51′ 30″ nord, 5° 58′ 43″ est
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Lourdes¶ms=44_51_30_N_5_58_43_E
44° 51′ 30″ nord, 95° 58′ 43″ est
Mongolia, near Uyghurs and Chinese
44° 51′ 30″ nord, 84° 1′ 17″ ouest
State Highway 33, Michigan, West of Alpena
44° 51′ 30″ nord, 174° 1′ 17″ ouest
Pacific, South of the end of Alaska Panhandle
Sanctuary of Our Lady of Lourdes, 43°05′51″N 0°03′30″W
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Sanctuary_of_Our_Lady_of_Lourdes¶ms=43_05_51_N_0_03_30_W_type:landmark
43°05′51″N 89°56′30″E
In Northern Xinjiang, near Mongolia
43°05′51″N 90°03′30″W
Between Chicago and Minneapolis
43°05′51″N 180°03′30″W
On the dateline
Our Lady of Fátima, Cova da Iria, 39°37′54″N 08°40′24″W
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Cova_da_Iria¶ms=39_37_54_N_08_40_24_W_type:landmark
39°37′54″N 98°40′24″W
Between Smith Center and Osborne, NNW of Wichita
39°37′54″N 81°19′36″E
Among Uyghurs near Russia, E of Toshkent, SE of Almaty
39°37′54″N 171°19′36″E
SE of Sakhalin, E of Japan, far N of New Zealand
(39°37′54″S 171°19′36″E
W by N of Whanganui, W by S of New Plymouth, offshore in New Zealand)
Hrushiv? On wiki I found more than one place with the name, and none matching the description 85 km N of Lviv ... unless it's the one in Яворівський район / Yavoriv Raion.
What about Šiluva?
Basilica of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Šiluva, 55°31′48.8″N 23°13′28.68″E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Basilica_of_the_Nativity_of_the_Blessed_Virgin_Mary,_%C5%A0iluva¶ms=55_31_48.8_N_23_13_28.68_E_region:LT_type:landmark
55°31′48.8″N 103°13′28.68″E
North of Irkutsk, there is a kind of river, and the pointer is across Karakhun
55°31′48.8″N 76°46′31.32″W
Onshore E of Hudson Bay, between Umiujaq and Whapmagoostui
55°31′48.8″N 166°46′31.32″W
North of Alaska Panhandle, North of Westdahl, South of a larger island I do not see the name of.
A common theme seems to be, the cross-points don't seem to be as closely knit by a common theme, like, less monomaniac. Land and water tends to be more mixed.
Obviously, near Ge Hinnom, 31°46′11″N 35°13′36″E, there is Calvary, 31°46′43″N 35°13′46″E, 32 arcs seconds further North, 10 arc seconds further East. Even closer is the distance between Cave of Pan in Banyas / Caesarea Philippi, and where Jesus promised Peter he would one day be the first Pope./HGL
PS, Bargemon, 1635:
Bargemon, France
43° 37′ 12″ N, 6° 33′ 01″ E
South West Mongolia
Govi-Altai Province, it seems
43° 37′ 12″ N, 96° 33′ 01″ E
Close to Unionville
about as far N of Detroit as Milwaukee is N of Chicago
43° 37′ 12″ N, 83° 26′ 59″ W
Pacific
North of Niue and South of Panhandle
43° 37′ 12″ N, 173° 26′ 59″ W
Tuesday, March 25, 2025
More Like the Same?
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: Black Magic in Shimao and Ur · More Like the Same? · What About the Opposite? · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Gospel against Cannibalism and Accusation thereof. · A Video on St. Patrick, an Observation on the Demons he Drove out
First, an explanation of how I did the crosses ... the lines of the cross meet in the axis of Earth. The points are on the same parallel (or latitude). I get them by addition and subtraction of 90° to the E~W coordinate (or longitude).
I happen to have answered the question in the comment to previous, but here I go again:
Start with Shimao, 38.5657°N 110.3252°E.
The other points of the cross are also all 38.5657°N, so exact same parallel circle.
However, the next point, offshore near Greece, still in the water, had 110.3252°E - 90° = 20.3252 E.
Then 90-20.3252 E = 69.6748 W, offshore US, East of somewhere S of Philadelphia, ESE of NYC.
Then 69.6748 W + 90 = 159.6748 W.
Exact same method for the other points, starting in each case a place of human sacrifice or cannibalism, and then doing the cross-points, like I just explained.
Now, Herxheim leads to Fontbrégoua and El Toro. Shimao and Ur to Shandi. Carthage to Tyre and Ge Hinnom and to Tenochtitlan. Let's see them.
The other sites like Herxheim, cannibalism of the Neolithic, namely Fontbrégoua and El Toro, continue the frontier's or border's theme, one of them even in the Pacific (near the date line).
Fontbrégoua cave, 43.55°N 6.2333°E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Fontbr%C3%A9goua_Cave¶ms=43.55_N_6.2333_E_type:landmark
In France, near Monaco and Italy
43.55°N 96.2333°E
In Mongolia near the border of China
43.55°N 83.7667°W
In US near the border of Canada
43.55°N 173.7667°W
In the Pacific
Cave of El Toro, 36°37′38″N 4°31′06″W (36.62724 N 4.51832 W)
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Cave_of_El_Toro¶ms=36.62724_N_4.51832_W_type:landmark
In Spain, near Morocco
36.62724 N 94.51832 W
In the US, near the fourway junction of states, in Missouri, across Oklahoma not far from Kansas, and also across Arkansas. Near a former frontier between French and Cherokees.
36.62724 N 85.48168 E
In Xinjiang, near the border of Tibet (which is now no longer considered an international border by some).
36.62724 N 175.48168 E
In the Pacific, near the date line (also a kind of border!)
The other sites like Carthage continue the offshore theme of Shimao and of Ur:
Gehenna / Valley of Hinnom, 31°46′11″N 35°13′36″E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Gehenna¶ms=31_46_11_N_35_13_36_E_type:landmark
In Israel
31°46′11″N 125°13′36″E
Offshore between China, Korea and Japan
31°46′11″N 54°46′24″W
Offshore between Canada, US, Brazil
31°46′11″N 144°46′24″W
Pacific, between California and Honolulu
Tyre, Lebanon, 33°16′15″N 35°11′46″E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Tyre,_Lebanon¶ms=33_16_15_N_35_11_46_E
In Lebanon, near Israel
33°16′15″N 125°11′46″E
Offshore near Korea
33°16′15″N 54°48'14"W
Offshore East of Bermuda
33°16′15″N 144°48'14"W
Pacific, West of California, NE of Honolulu
Tenochtitlan brings us to non-Christian areas.
Tenochtitlan, 19°26′N 99°8′W
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Tenochtitlan¶ms=19_26_N_99_8_W_type:city
19°26′N 9°8′W
In Mauritania
19°26′N 80°2'E
Near Aheri in India
19°26′N 170°2'E
Pacific, North of Marshall Islands
3500 BC: Three men were sacrificed during a burial, near the town of Shendi in modern Sudan. Their remains were found alongside two dogs and ceramics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_sacrifices
Offshore theme of Ur and Shimao.
Shendi or Shandi (Arabic: شندي), 16°41′N 33°26′E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Shendi¶ms=16_41_N_33_26_E_region:SD_type:city
Shendi is, as said, in Sudan.
16° 41′N, 123° 26′ E
Offshore in the Philippines
16° 41′N, 56° 34′ W
Offshore near Antigua and Barbuda
16° 41′N, 146° 34′ W
East of Honolulu
Finally, or nearly, the Grauballe Man brings is to colder areas. Not near the Gulf Stream. Perhaps this is unavoidable, but what wasn't, maybe, is, both areas not in the Pacific and perhaps even that one feature first nations of some type.
Grauballe Man, 56°12′35″N 9°37′49″E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Grauballe_Man¶ms=56_12_35_N_9_37_49_E
56°12′35″N 99°37′49″E
Near Chunsky
56°12′35″N 80°22′11″W
In Hudson Bay offshore, near an island
56°12′35″N 170°22′11″W
Near St. George, "inside" the Alaska Panhandle, South of Siberia's East tip
What about Nimrod's Neolithic? Offshore theme revisited.
Boncuklu Höyük, 37°45′6.588″N 32°51′53.208″E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Boncuklu_H%C3%B6y%C3%BCk¶ms=37_45_6.588_N_32_51_53.208_E_type:landmark
In Turkey, West of Mesopotamia / Shinar
37°45′6.588″N 122°51′53.208″E
Offshore in the bay between Korea and China
37°45′6.588″N 57°8′6.792″W
Offshore, East of Philadelphia, NE of Bermudas
37°45′6.588″N 147°8′6.792″W
N by E of Honolulu, SE of Alaska Panhandle
As in the previous, I focus into big pictures to verify the actual neighbourhoods of the cross points. But here I'm for the moment at least not showing this, as you have already seen the procedure and as this post has more items./HGL
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Monday, March 24, 2025
Black Magic in Shimao and Ur
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: Black Magic in Shimao and Ur · More Like the Same? · What About the Opposite? · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Gospel against Cannibalism and Accusation thereof. · A Video on St. Patrick, an Observation on the Demons he Drove out
Yes, I count human sacrifice as indicating always Black Magic.
And there seems to be a common theme of the places in these two. For both, if you take a cross around the same parallel circle, the other three points will land in water.
If we go back to Herxheim or forward to Carthage, this is not the case. Insted you have three points on land, and only one in the Pacific.
However, for Herxheim, it's near a border Germany near France, and the other three, one in the Pacific, but the other two, one is in Mongolia near Russia, one is in Canada tolerably near the US.
Carthage was near a battle and Greenboro was near battles, Lexington, Atlanta. Again there is in China a point that, though not in the sea, is in an inland lake. I'm not sure if it was near a battle or not, but probably it was.
Demons had access to knowledge the men they deluded couldn't know naturally (and were probably not aware of). This is also true for knowledge revealed by God about battles./HGL
Shimao itself, 38.5657°N 110.3252°E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Shimao¶ms=38.5657_N_110.3252_E_type:landmark
38.5657 N, 20.3252 E
38.5657 N, 69.6748 W
38.5657 N, 159.6748 W
Ur itself, 30°57′42″N 46°06′18″E (30.9616529 N 46.1051259 E)
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Ur¶ms=30.9616529_N_46.1051259_E_type:landmark
30.9616529 N 136.1051259 E
30.9616529 N 43.8948741 W
30.9616529 N 133.8948741 W
Herxheim bei Landau/Pfalz, 49°08′49″N 8°13′12″E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Herxheim_bei_Landau/Pfalz¶ms=49_08_49_N_8_13_12_E
49°08′49″N 98°13′12″E
49°08′49″N 81°46'48" W
49°08′49″N 171°46'48" W
Carthage, 36.8528°N 10.3233°E
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Carthage¶ms=36.8528_N_10.3233_E_type:landmark
36.8528°N 100.3233°E
36.8528°N 79.6767°W
36.8528°N 79.6767°W
PS, yes, the Carthage theme is complete in China too: Battle of Dafei River involves: "The Tang general, Xue Rengui, commanded an army of 50,000 men against around 400,000 men of the Tibetan Empire. He left his slower-moving baggage train and 20,000 soldiers under Guo Daifeng behind and advanced with the rest to the Qinghai Lake." QED. (The Qinghai Lake is also known as Koko Nor)./HGL
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