Sunday, January 17, 2021

English Kings and Roman Popes since 1534


I got a challenge, pretending God had blessed English monarchs more than Popes, since English monarchs have lived longer.* This is not true, the reason there have been more Popes is, Popes have become such later.

Starting with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Clement_VII

Ending with last dead ones in each case, and with Popes omitting Vatican II Antipopes not recognised by Pope Michael (whom I also omit since he's still alive, like Elizabeth II). As to Monarchs of British Isles, I have not taken the legitimate Stuart claims into account, since the man was arguably not into Catholicism. After Henry VIII and Clement VII, I do not link to the wikis, I leave that to you.

Henry VIII Died 28 January 1547 (aged 55)
Edward VI of England Died 6 July 1553 (aged 15)
Mary I of England Died 17 November 1558 (aged 42)
Elizabeth I Died 24 March 1603 (aged 69)
James VI and I Died 27 March 1625 (aged 58)
Charles I of England Died 30 January 1649 (aged 48)
Charles II of England Died 6 February 1685 (aged 54)
James II and VII Died 16 September 1701 (aged 67)
Mary II of England Died 28 December 1694 (aged 32)
William III Died 8 March 1702 (aged 51)
Queen Anne Died 1 August 1714 (aged 49)
George I Died 11/22 June 1727 (aged 67)
George II Died 25 October 1760 (aged 76)
George III Died 29 January 1820 (aged 81)
George IV Died 26 June 1830 (aged 67)
William IV Died 20 June 1837 (aged 71)
Queen Victoria Died 22 January 1901 (aged 81)
Edward VII Died 6 May 1910 (aged 68)
George V Died 20 January 1936 (aged 70)
Edward VIII Died 28 May 1972 (aged 77)
George VI Died 6 February 1952 (aged 56)

Pope Clement VII Died 25 September 1534 (aged 56)
Pope Paul III Died 10 November 1549 (aged 81)
Pope Julius III Died 23 March 1555 (aged 67)
Pope Marcellus II Died 1 May 1555 (aged 53)
Pope Paul IV Died 18 August 1559 (aged 83)
Pope Pius IV Died 9 December 1565 (aged 66)
Pope St. Pius V Died 1 May 1572 (aged 68)
Pope Gregory XIII Died 10 April 1585 (aged 83)
Pope Sixtus V Died 27 August 1590 (aged 68)
Pope Urban VII Died 27 September 1590 (aged 69)
Pope Gregory XIV Died 16 October 1591 (aged 56)
Pope Innocent IX Died 30 December 1591 (aged 72)
Pope Clement VIII Died 5 March 1605 (aged 69)
Pope Leo XI Died 27 April 1605 (aged 69)
Pope Paul V Died 28 January 1621 (aged 70)
Pope Gregory XV Died 8 July 1623 (aged 69)
Pope Urban VIII Died 29 July 1644 (aged 76)
Pope Innocent X Died 7 January 1655 (aged 80)
Pope Alexander VII Died 22 May 1667 (aged 68)
Pope Clement IX Died 9 December 1669 (aged 69)
Pope Clement X Died 22 July 1676 (aged 86)
Pope Innocent XI Died 12 August 1689 (aged 78)
Pope Alexander VIII Died 1 February 1691 (aged 80)
Pope Innocent XII Died 27 September 1700 (aged 85)
Pope Clement XI Died 19 March 1721 (aged 71)
Pope Innocent XIII Died 7 March 1724 (aged 68)
Pope Benedict XIII Died 21 February 1730 (aged 81)
Pope Clement XII Died 6 February 1740 (aged 87)
Pope Benedict XIV Died 3 May 1758 (aged 83)
Pope Clement XIII Died 2 February 1769 (aged 75)
Pope Clement XIV Died 22 September 1774 (aged 68)
Pope Pius VI Died 29 August 1799 (aged 81)
Pope Pius VII Died 20 August 1823 (aged 81)
Pope Leo XII Died 10 February 1829 (aged 68)
Pope Pius VIII Died 30 November 1830 (aged 69)
Pope Gregory XVI Died 1 June 1846 (aged 80)
Pope Pius IX Died 7 February 1878 (aged 85)**
Pope Leo XIII Died 20 July 1903 (aged 93)
Pope St. Pius X Died 20 August 1914 (aged 79)
Pope Benedict XV Died 22 January 1922 (aged 67)
Pope Pius XI Died 10 February 1939 (aged 81)
Pope Pius XII Died 9 October 1958 (aged 82)

15 32 42 48 49 51 54 55 56 58 67 67 67 68 69 70 71 76 77 81 81
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21

Minimum 15
Lower Quartile 51
Median 67
Higher Quartile 70
Maximum 81

53 56 56 66 67 67 68 68 68 68 68 68 69 69 69 69 69 69 70 71 72 75 76
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23

78 79 80 80 80 81 81 81 81 81 82 83 83 83 85 85 86 87 93
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42

Minimum 53
Lower Quartile 68
Median 72 / 75
Higher Quartile 81
Maximum 93

So, Popes have since 1534 died older, youngest popes being older than youngest monarch in British isles, oldes older than oldest, median Popes (with even number of values, there are two medians, I could of course get a mean of them) older than median monarch, each quartile, low and high Popes older than monarchs. Indeed, minimal Papal age is higher than lower quartile English monarch age, lower quartile Papal age is higher than median English monarch age, and higher quartile papal age is not higher, indeed, than, but equal to maximum English monarch age.

Anyone into "God's blessing is visible in long years" should therefore prefer Popes over English monarchs.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
II Lord's Day after Epiphany
17.I.2021

* In this post it is recorded, from comboxes under a youtube:

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : Zack Pearlman tried to tell me not to listen to Lizzie Reezay
https://assortedretorts.blogspot.com/2021/01/zack-pearlman-tried-to-tell-me-not-to.html


** It can be noted that his foster son Edgardo Mortara - the only, probably, case where Catholic CPS took a child away during Pius IX's reign - lived 88 years according to German wiki: * 27. August 1851 in Bologna; † 11. März 1940 in Lüttich. It is a shame how wikimedia go into great detail in how he was "robbed" from his parents by papacy, but not so much how he was nearly robbed from aspiring to priesthood back to his parents, to get a retroactive Jewish education, in 1870, and had to leave Italy to escape that. It is a shame how he is remembered for being a "victim" in his childhood, while his activity as a priest, his choice, is left out. German wiki having an article on Edgardo Mortara is more balanced, while English wiki only has Mortara case.

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