Paiutes, Si-Te-Cah, Legends and Facts (link to video)

The UnXplained: GIANT SKELETONS Found In Wild West Cave (Season 4)
HISTORY, 29 Jan. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbljB5l9kCE

A Thread As Allie Denounced Disney +

Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: A Thread As Allie Denounced Disney + · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Allie's Video, Outside the Thread with J R

Gma Card

That is such bologna! My family came here from Norway and Sweden, they built roads, buildings, started companies and provided jobs on the West Coast. The Scandinavian migrants were extremely hard workers who pioneered the western states! They did not own slaves!

Persephone L

Same! All mine came from Sweden, Norway and Germany in the late 1800’s.
A very, very small minority, like maybe 5% of white Americans today even have family that owned slaves. It’s incredibly rare.

Linda Steinbrenner

Yes!! So true!

Chandler

👏👏👏👏AMEN

EmperorTalpa

The Dutch did… I think sometimes there might be some regional terminology confusion….

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@EmperorTalpa How many slaves were there in Niew Amsterdam?

J R

Why is it so uncomfortable for America to right its wrongs when it comes to the descendants of slavery? Many of you compare your ancestors who migrated to the USA. It’s not one of the same. Many of you do no realize that the generation above me had direct suffrage as we went from being slaves to having to fight for civil rights. We were still poor and improvised due to being oppressed. As a child in the 80’s, there were KKK members burning crosses in black families’ yards. There were still black families living in run down shacks on plantations. Its generations of trauma brought on by one of the greatest crimes against humanity. Yet, Americans can not understand the criminal behaviors of many of their direct grandparents, fathers and mothers let alone slavers. Immigration and migration are not the same as forced labor. There are many of black Americans living in America who has been greatly affected by America’s criminal behavior. Is it uncomfortable to hear that your ancestors are no different than Hitler?

Please note: Immigration, migration, and indentured servants are not the same as slavery and having to fight for human rights. It will never be one in the same! America was the first Hitler. These comparisons only show the lack of humanity and dignity for the long suffrage of slavery and the fight for civil rights in America by slaves and their generational descendants. It’s undertones of racisms even with saying “don’t play the black card”. Resolve America’s wrongs and not by we gave the African Americans welfare and affirmative actions. Hold America accountable with its crimes!

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R Many of you compare your ancestors who migrated to the USA. It’s not one of the same. Many of you do no realize that the generation above me had direct suffrage as we went from being slaves to having to fight for civil rights.

I don't think that happened in Kenosha. I don't think that happened in Seattle. I don't think that happened in New York City (the part about KKK at any rate).

You pretend to hold all of the US responsible for slavery in some states. A slavery which did not directly build the other states.

It was ended in 1865. Other things went on into the 70's - also in some states. Ask reparations for forced sterilisations, not for slavery. Hold people like Margaret Sanger responsible. Take a cue from Alveda King.

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl my sister was born in 1979! I was born in 1982. My grandparents were born in the early 1900’s and were still treated as slaves! Clearly, you do not comprehend the understanding of “what other things are”. It was human suffrage with coming off the the civil rights era. These issues did not magically disappear.

If your ancestors were not the hitlers of American’s society then step back.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R Quite a lot of states, they weren't. I'm not even part of American society, but quite a lot of states they weren't.

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl there should be 3 protected groups in America: Native American and Slaves and their descendants (ie foundational African Americans) for the crimes committed against them. Jewish community as America has given them and their descendants protection against Hitler’s regime. Native American ms have received protection in America with self governance and protection of their tribal lands. As for slaves and their descendants, many states has active roles either in slavery and/ or white supremacy including discrimination and segregation. If you aren’t a part of America’s society then step back. Deal with the social issues, if any, within your country.

@Hans-Georg Lundahl just because at one point northern states felt empathy to free slaves does not exempt their immoral behaviors. If you ancestors did not own slaves then don’t include yourself in a discussion about America’s crime against humanity

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R "Deal with the social issues, if any, within your country."

I'm not a nationalist.

@J R " just because at one point northern states felt empathy to free slaves does not exempt their immoral behaviors."

Which ones were that?

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl for the northern states, slavery/lynchings were a crime against humanity. No different than Hitler and gas chambers with Jewish communities.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R Reference, please?

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R Lynchings between 1882 and 1968, middle numeral = black (left = white, right = total). Roman numeral, myself counting them together.

Under 10 black lynched

Arizona 31 0 31 California 41 2 43, II Colorado 65 3 68, V Delaware 0 1 1, VI Idaho 20 0 20 Iowa 17 2 19, VIII Maine 1 0 1 Michigan 7 1 8, IX Minnesota 5 4 9, XIII Montana 82 2 84, XV Nebraska 52 5 57, XX Nevada 6 0 6

New Jersey 1 1 2, XXI New Mexico 33 3 36, XXIV New York 1 1 2, XXV North Dakota 13 3 16, XXVIII Oregon 20 1 21, XXIX Pennsylvania 2 6 8, XXXV South Dakota 27 0 27 Utah 6 2 8, XXXVII Vermont 1 0 1 Washington 25 1 26, XXXVIII Wisconsin 6 0 6 Wyoming 30 5 35, XLIII

From ten to forty

Illinois 15 19 34, LXII Indiana 33 14 47, LXXVI Kansas 35 19 54, XCV Maryland 2 27 29, CXXII

Ohio 10 16 26, CXLVIII Oklahoma 82 40 122, CLXXXVIII West Virginia 20 28 48, CCXVI

In these 31 states, you have 216 Black People Lynched out of a total of 3,446. In 6 more, no lynchings at all. That makes 6.268 %.

Lynchings: By State and Race, 1882-1968
Statistics provided by the Archives at Tuskegee Institute.
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingsstate.html

Could

not add this:

What do the "clean states" add up to?

ALASKA 733 391 CONNECTICUT 3 605 944 HAWAII 1 455 271		MASSACHUSETTS 7 029 917 NEW HAMPSHIRE 1 377 529 RHODE ISLAND 1 097 379
Arizona 7 151 502 California 39 538 223 Colorado 5 773 714 Delaware 989 948 Idaho 1 839 106 Iowa 3 190 369 Maine 1 362 359 Michigan 10 077 331 Minnesota 5 706 494 Montana 1 084 225 Nebraska 10961 504 Nevada 3 104 614		New Jersey 9 288 994 New Mexico 2 117 522 New York 20 201 249 North Dakota 779 094 Oregon 4 237 256 Pennsylvania 13 002 700 South Dakota 886 667 Utah 3 271 616 Vermont 643 077 Washington 7 705 281 Wisconsin 5 893 718 Wyoming 576 851
Illinois 12 812 508 Indiana 6 785 528 Kansas 2 937 880 Maryland 6 177 224		Ohio 11 799 448 Oklahoma 3 959 353 West Virginia 1 793 716

50 States 330 759 736

211 948 502 / 330 759 736 = 64.079 % (all numbers on April 1st 2020).

J R

Why is it so uncomfortable for America to right its wrongs when it comes to the descendants of slavery? Many of you compare your ancestors who migrated to the USA. It’s not one of the same. Many of you do no realize that the generation above me had direct suffrage as we went from being slaves to having to fight for civil rights. We were still poor and improvised due to being oppressed. As a child in the 80’s, there were KKK members burning crosses in black families’ yards. There were still black families living in run down shacks on plantations. Its generations of trauma brought on by one of the greatest crimes against humanity. Yet, Americans can not understand the criminal behaviors of many of their direct grandparents, fathers and mothers let alone slavers. Immigration and migration are not the same as forced labor. There are many of black Americans living in America who has been greatly affected by America’s criminal behavior. Is it uncomfortable to hear that your ancestors are no different than Hitler?

Please note: Immigration, migration, and indentured servants are not the same as slavery and having to fight for human rights. It will never be one in the same! America was the first Hitler. These comparisons only show the lack of humanity and dignity for the long suffrage of slavery and the fight for civil rights in America by slaves and their generational descendants. It’s undertones of racisms even with saying “don’t play the black card”. Resolve America’s wrongs and not by we gave the African Americans welfare and affirmative actions. Hold America accountable with its crimes!

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R 37 states have 64 % of the population, as per April 1st 2020 census, and had 6.268 % of the lynchings against black men between 1882 and 1968. In some cases no lynching at all (six states) and in the other cases after as many lynchings against white men or more. I drew the line with 40 lynchings of black men. That was Oklahoma. And most of these states had less than ten black men lynched.

I posted a comment on it, but it was taken down.

You want to know who the first Hitler was? Margaret Sanger. Go after Planned Parenthood, not after America!

@J R Besides, a few Latinos would probably not like us calling "los Estadunidenses" Americans, as if there were no Latin Americans ....

Omitted

some comments by "Chandler" I found only after a while .... one important thing was noting that Africans had been taken slaves in Africa. Agreed. Another one was the descendants should be grateful or go to Africa. Not agreed, not automatically an alternative. "Be grateful where you are or leave" ... depends. Some cases, one has a certain deterioration to expect if returning. Doesn't automatically add up to a duty to be satsfied. Some cases, one has never even been where one is supposed to "return" to. No recent roots there, no idea of exact place of origin, not everyone is as good a researcher as Alex Hayley, and things have changed there too. John McWhorter probably visits his roots both in Ghana and in Scotland. But he also has no problem in the US, as to his own situation. But some are worse off both as citizens of the US, and as prospects for a return to Africa.

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl Carolyn Donham 1955. Emmett Till, lynched and beat at age 14. He would have been in the age group as one of my aunts.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R That was Mississippi, not Florida.

The video is about the Florida Governor, remember?

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl this video is about the Proud Family and speaking on slavery. Many of others have given their states account. Mississippi is added. Margaret Sanager was from New York. Follow your own advice.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R Yes, but it was not Mississippi that banned Proud Family.

And the problem in New York was providing abortions, not spontaneous lynchmobs.

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl you are attempting to mix one social issue with another social issue. I’m not speaking on abortions. Im speaking on the commenters who take issue with saying slaves built America.

My post is not related to abortion issues. I have no current remarks to abortions. Abortions are highly sensitive as there are victims of SA. You can add SA perps to evil doers. Add Carolyn to the list as well.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R Slaves didn't build most states.

Take slave states (not all of the South had that many slaves) and add Chicago, where freed slaves often worked in bad conditions.

That is a thing you tried to mix with lynchings, which didn't hit the black very hard in 37 of the 50, and even no lynching at all, black or white, in six of them.

"Abortions are highly sensitive as there are victims of SA."

You don't heal from sex abuse by aborting.

J R

@Hans-Georg Lundahl I’m no longer holding a convo with you. Enjoy your day. I’m not changing topics.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@J R As you wish.

Adding two more states, around 10 % of Black Victims:

Virginia 17 83 100
216 + 83 = 299
299 / 3 446 = 8.68 % of Black Victims

8 631 393 + 211 948 502 = 220 579 895
220 579 895 / 330 759 736 = 66.6889 % of US Population 1 April 2020

North Carolina 15 86 101
299 + 86 = 385
385 / 3 446 = 11.172 % of Black Victims

10 439 388 + 220 579 895 = 231 019 283
231 019 283 / 330 759 736 = 69.845 % of US Population 1 April 2020

What if you lived during the Middle Ages

First note : the site is one for Science, not one for History:

Closeup, the site really is mainly interested in Science:

This is important, since scientists are often not very good historians.

What If You Lived During the Middle Ages?
Pierre Köchel, July 4, 2019
https://insh.world/science/what-if-you-lived-during-the-middle-ages/

After 200 years of peace and prosperity under ‘Pax Romana,’ the Roman Empire fell into crisis and decline. Thus began the Middle Ages, more commonly known as the Dark Ages; beginning towards the end of the 5th century and lasting until the start of the Renaissance in the 14th century.

First, the Middle Ages certainly didn't start in AD 200. This means, the decline of the Empire in the "second century crisis" is not the defining factor in the upcoming Middle Ages.

This was a time when,

No. These were pretty different times. When different things.

unless you were a knight, nobleman, or the King himself, life was brutal and scary.

Knights and noblemen in that feudal sense, didn't exist in the beginning of the Middle Ages. Even in 800, being a noble may well imply being a millionnaire in land possessions (today's land worth), but the public power nobles exercised was by getting elected or named by a king.*

Yet other comites served as regional officials. For administrative purposes, the Merovingian kingdoms were still divided into small Roman districts denominated "pagi" (hence the French "pays"), or similarly sized new creations "Gaue". These were smaller than the old Roman civitates ("cities", or polities) which became the basis of the new medieval bishoprics. In Carolingian times, the governor of a pagus was a Comes, corresponding to the German Graf. The King appointed the Comites to serve at his pleasure. The modern German-derived term sometimes for a count who governed a whole gau is "Gaugraf", and a gau containing several counties is sometimes called a "Grossgau".

So, you didn't inherit the title as count of a pagus, you were named to the position.

The other part of it is, everyone except the ... 5 % ? ... who were in administration or feudal nobility had a brutal and scary life .... not true. Life can be brutal or scary at times then and now or further back or in the future. But like is hardly brutal and scary for 95 % of the people 95 % of the time for 1000 years over a big part of a continent.

Hygiene was poor, money was scarce, diseases were rampant, and punishment was cruel.

Wait .... yes, sodomy was an offense and so was deflowering a virgin, especially if you didn't make it up by marrying her. I see what kind of people would consider that type of penal law "cruel" ... and death penalty was available, for more than just violent crime. Sodomy most places, and deflowering a virgin outside wedlock at least in Spain, if you go by El Alcalde de Zalamea (the incident was a century usually counted after the Middle ages). And you know what? In that incident, the plaintiff was a commoner about his own daughter, and the executed criminal who refused to marry her was a nobleman.

In some places and times denying important parts of Church doctrine could also get you burned on a stake, but that was just the end of the Middle Ages, and continued up to 1820 in Spain and in the Spanish possessions.

And most people even before that hadn't been too eager to deny Church doctrine anyway. How eager is Pierre Köchel to deny the Science doctrines like Evolution, or even the doctrines Scientists hold against the Middle Ages in the worst history available?

The parts about poor hygiene are grossly misleading. Tooth care was better before all the white sugar came along.**

The same is true of diseases, living in the country-side was usually a good way to avoid the more prominent infections. 1346 to 1353*** is hardly a large portion of the Middle Ages, that's the exception, lots of villages were swept away. It is also a short one. Divide those seven years by the roughly thousand of the Middle Ages, you get 0.007. Or zero point seven percent.

Money was less important, that is true. It became more so after the Plague. At the same time, peasants started to be less often serfs and getting less duties - since there were fewer of them, and the landowners (when not farmers) needed men to work their land.

Beds were not soft, and toilets didn’t really exist, but hey, at least you had the church, and roughly 8 weeks of holidays and festivals spread throughout the year. The truth is, life back then was difficult, but people got through it.

I've slept in hay, twice, in 2004. I recall it as a two of the more comfortable nights, once in Denmark, once in Germany. God bless those farmers and their families!

Water closet type toilets didn't exist, but that's not the only type imaginable.

Roughly 8 weeks of holidays for farmers in the Middle Ages means they were (at 95 % of the population) less overworked than now. Imagine you are 95 % and grow 100 % of the food. Not quite true, fishers weren't farmers, and some foods arrived by trade, but still. This means you grow your own food, and 19 people grow food for the 20th. Imagine you are instead 5 % of the population and grow 100 % of the food. You need to grow (on average) 20 times as much as you eat yourself. Let me quote° you something:

In the 1800s each farmer grew enough food each year to feed three to five people. By 1995, each farmer was feeding 128 people per year. In the 1800s, 90 percent of the population lived on farms; today it is around one percent.

But doesn't it mean we are better off because we have more food? No. More food doesn't mean a farmer producing more, it means an acre producing more. A farmer producing more means less work on farms.

It also means, the farmers need to hurry more than they did in the Middle Ages.

"Life back then was difficult" ... as in we all live easy lives now?
"But people got through it." - at least, better than some get through their teens now!

They even managed to have a bit of fun while struggling to survive.

Struggling ... no, if you have 8 weeks off as a farmer, you aren't struggling to survive. They had more than just a bit of fun, and didn't feel the need to get as much fun as possible out of their teens, since "getting a work" was not ending that state of things.

Your typical day in a Medieval town starts at 4 am.

Is this referring to dawn in summer? On June 25, sunrise and sunset°° are going to be 5:48 am to 10:00 pm GMT+01:00. Translated to strictly local time, as before the time zone agreements, that would be 3:55 am to 8:06 pm ... yes, on June 25, the day would start on 3:55 am. But December 25, by contrast, you could sleep to 7:53 am.°° Early up means late to bed, late up means early to bed. And on long days, you arguably could sleep at noon.

The church bell tolls, announcing the first mass of the day.

I think it's more like first service. Lauds. And depending on your profession you might have the time to go there too. The first Mass would be after Prime, one hour later. As hours were exactly 1/12 of the time from sunrise to sunset, in Summer Prime would be 5:17 am, and in Winter 8:35 am.

Instead, you’ll be preparing your goods for sale at the market, which opens at 6 am. And there you’ll stand for the next 9 hours, hoping you’ll make enough to buy a chicken for dinner, instead of the same old cabbage and beans.

I'm not sure anyone ever stood 9 hours at a market. I know a market which opens at (5 -) 6 am and closes by 2 pm. Wait, that's 8 hours, so, fair enough.

Dinner at your house might not be very special, but up at the castle, the King is having a feast! All you can eat, all you can drink, and not a single dull moment [jester]. The fun doesn’t stop with dinner. When the plates are cleared, the town’s elite take to the dance floor – even the knights.

Considering the following day is a festival, your dinner arguably would be special.

I wonder what exact town you are thinking of when the king and the knights are in the castle ... in capitals, this would be the case, Paris was one, and the élite of Paris as a town usually was not in the Royal castle, more like in the town hall.

While a lot of these festivals were tied to the church, the town also hosted tournaments, which the church did not approve of. That’s probably because tournaments made a spectacle of violence from jousting to swordplay to making prisoners duel to the death!

The Church initially did approve of jousting, as a training for military exploits (once jousting was forbidden, duels took the place). Jousting did not involve duels, let alone duels to the death, and prisoners certainly wouldn't do the jousting, it was an honour for free people. They eventually did°°° get banned ...

In 1559, Henry II of France died during a tournament when a sliver from the shattered lance of Gabriel Montgomery, captain of the Scottish Guard at the French Court, pierced his eye and entered his brain. The death of Henry II caused his 15-year-old son Francis II to take the throne, beginning a period of political instability that ultimately led to the French Wars of Religion.

Back to Pierre Köchel:

If you think that’s cruel, it doesn’t really get any better. Most serious crimes were settled by a trial by ordeal.

For example, if you were accused of a crime, you might be subjected to a trial by water. Bound hand and foot, you’d be tossed into a body of water.

Ordeals were used in Merovingian times, in case there were no witnesses. The water ordeals here spoken of is more like witch trials in Early Modern times.

While the physics of buoyancy wasn’t exactly their strong suit, science did exist in the Middle Ages. For example, even in Medieval times, the well educated were well aware that the world was round.

The physics of buoyancy arguably have a lot to do with what clothing a woman is wearing. Wool gets soaked and heavy quickly. And a philosopher of 1200 (in the Middle Ages) would have known it, even if an excited crowd in 1600 (after the Middle Ages) wouldn't have known it when contemplating a suspected witch being tried.

This period also saw the inventions of many items we still use today, such as the mechanical clock and the printing press. Too bad they didn’t invent the toothbrush! In fact, if you were wealthy, it was fashionable to have rotting teeth, since it showed that you could afford sugar.

That's if anything Renaissance, not Middle Ages.

Obesity was also a sign of prosperity, since it showed that you could afford meat and other luxury foods.

Renaissance and Baroque, not the Middle Ages.

But if the nobles lived well, the peasants were in the best health.

Their well balanced diet of bread and beans, paired with full days of physical labor, kept them in great shape.

Correct. For once.

And as for their teeth, well, they didn’t have toothpaste back then, so the common practice was to wash your mouth out with wine or vinegar after a meal.

Not very hygenic, but that’s not what the Middle Ages were about.

Alcohol (even as low a degree as undistilles but strong wine) is antibacterial. Washing the mouth out eliminates pieces of food that could otherwise nourish less killed caries bacteria. And the Middle Ages in fact had a high degree of hygiene.

You kept your hands and face clean to keep up appearances, but, aside from the rich, no one really had toilets or bathtubs like we do today.

This is not correct, unless you insist on the technicality "like today" since models have changed.

Here comes an actually correct description of the Black Death, which I won't quote, since I already linked to the wiki page.

But over the next few centuries, Europe underwent a renaissance, a time when people pursued truth and accuracy through skepticism and scrutinizing empirical evidence. This period initiated a scientific revolution that continues to this day.

Er, no. This was the exact time of bad teeth showing lots of sugar was consumed, and of nobles being proud of being fat, and of only hands and faces being washed. George Washington and George III arguably both had lower standards of hygiene than Lewis IX or Henry III.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Septuagesima, 5.II.2023

Notes:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comes
** It was in the Middle Ages known mainly in ex-Arabic countries, like Southern Italy or Spain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_sugar
*** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

° A Sustainable Future?
by Beth Waterhouse
http://www.pbs.org/ktca/farmhouses/sustainable_future.html

°° https://www.suntoday.org/sunrise-sunset/2023/june/25.html
vs
https://www.suntoday.org/sunrise-sunset/2023/december/25.html

°°° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tournament_(medieval)

Teensploitation - wikipedia category

The category is organised in alphabetic order:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Teensploitation

I reorganised it temporally:

Early limit

Delinquent Daughters - 1944

1:st Quartile

Rebel Without a Cause - 1955
The Delinquents (1957 film), Dragstrip Girl (1957 film), I Was a Teenage Werewolf - 1957
The Blob, The Cry Baby Killer, Daddy-O - 1958
Teenagers from Outer Space - 1959
Beat Girl, The Beatniks (film), Date Bait - 1960
The Choppers - 1961
Bikini Beach,Muscle Beach Party,Pajama Party (film),Surf Party - 1964
Beach Ball, The Girls on the Beach, How to Stuff a Wild Bikini, Village of the Giants - 1965
It's a Bikini World - 1967
Baby Love (1968 film), Last Summer - 1969

Early quartile limit

How Did a Nice Girl Like You Get Into This Business? - 1970 / Don't Deliver Us from Evil - 1971

2:nd Quartile

Exponerad, Friends (1971 film), Good Little Girls - 1971
The Cheerleaders - 1973
Candy Stripe Nurses, Julia (1974 film), Monika (1974 film) - 1974
Best Friends (1975 film), Cooley High, Pick-Up (1975 film), The School Teacher, Teenage Hitchhikers, Teenage Seductress - 1975
Emily (1976 film), The Pom Pom Girls, Den sommeren jeg fylte 15 - 1976
Bilitis (film), Satan's Cheerleaders - 1977
Cheerleaders Beach Party, El diputado, El sacerdote - 1978
Over the Edge (film) - 1979
Carny (1980 film) - 1980

Median

High Test Girls - 1980

3:rd Quartile

Lovely But Deadly, Porky's, Private Lessons (1981 film) - 1981
Class of 1984, Der Fan, The Last American Virgin - 1982
BMX Bandits (film), Private School (film), Spring Break (film) - 1983
Joy of Sex (film), Surf II, Up the Creek (1984 film) - 1984
A Certain Sacrifice, Heaven Help Us, Smooth Talk, Tuff Turf - 1985
Dangerously Close - 1986
Beach Fever - 1987
Shag (film) - 1989
Streets (film) - 1990
The Double 0 Kid - 1993
Fun (film), Terminal USA - 1994

Late Quartile limit

Kids (film) - 1995 / Tromeo and Juliet - 1997

4th Quartile

Show Me Love (film), Wild Things (film) - 1998
Cruel Intentions - 1999
Bully (2001 film) - 2001
Ken Park, Lilya 4-ever - 2002
Kärlekens språk, Saved! - 2004
Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life, Mouth to Mouth (2005 British film) - 2005
2:37, Jimmy and Judy, Punk Love - 2006
Bad Reputation (2007 film) - 2007
Endless Bummer (film), Teenage Dirtbag (film) - 2009
Hello! How Are You?, X: Night of Vengeance - 2011
Young & Wild (2012 film), Clip (film) - 2012
Adrenaline (film) - 2015
Assassination Nation, We (2018 film) - 2018

Late limit

Shakespeare's Shitstorm - 2020

What years had most of them?

Type year 1975, six items

Four items each, 1964, 1965, 1971, 1985

Half of the material is from 1970/1971 to 1995/1997. The type year and two of the years with second highest rate fall within this half, the other two before it. First quartile lasts 44 to 70, 27 years. Second quartile lasts 71 to 80, 10 years, third quartile lasts 81 to 95, 15 years, and fourth quartile lasts 1997 to 2020, 24 years. The middle 25 years made as many as the outer 51 years. It looks a bit like this is peaking about the same decades as the sexual abuse crisis in Catholic clergy - which actually started to slow down a bit before 1995. Though the big mediatised scandals came later.

Media was pushing sex. Laws and customs were already largely preventing teens from marrying. How many of the cases are really a teen girl and a priest acting out what they saw on big screens, in the hope of the situation covering it up to avoid consequences? Well, they could have read Chesterton - one of his reasons for Catholicism is, it's the one thing that really prevents a sin from being a secret (meaning a solitary secret). People in other religions could hope for more discretion, and often got it./HGL