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Monday, July 23, 2018
If Tower of Babel was a Rocket Project - What Else Can We Expect?
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Does my Interpretation of Mahabharata and Ramayana Offend Hindoos? · If Tower of Babel was a Rocket Project, Why was it Called a Tower? · If Tower of Babel was a Rocket Project - What Else Can We Expect? · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : Sin of Babel - Two Views · Φιλολoγικά/Philologica again: In case anyone missed this · Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : With Mackey on Haman and on Babel · Creation vs. Evolution : Bricks at Göbekli Tepe or Close? · How My View of Babel Ties in with "Defending Biblical Inerrancy" · Ten Keys to my Idea of Göbekli Tepe as Babel and its Tower as a Rocket
One for whatever and whereever Tower of Babel was, first : all linguistic traces if any at all before its end would be in Hebrew. It seems both St Augustine and (I think) Targum Ionathas have it, the pre-Babel language was Hebrew and Hebrews kept it by not participating.
As it so happens, most even undeciphered traces of old writing are from after Göbekli Tepe. And some little trace of what could be pure symbol writing (about as linguistic as traffic signs all over the game) or what could involve abbreviated initial letters of words, which is older than Göbekli Tepe, namely from Palaeolithic, has not been deciphered and if linguistic could be Hebrew. Even if pre-Babel language was other than Hebrew, we do not find traces of linguistic diversity previous to Göbekli Tepe.
We could further expect that there is a site in Shinar, that is Mesopotamia, in or near a plain. And Göbekli Tepe is near a plain (and there is a tower on the plain) in an otherwise hilly part of Shinar or Mesopotamia.
"How so, 'Mesopotamia' - that's Iraq and Göbekli Tepe is Turkey!"
Mesopotamia means between the two rivers. Euphrates and Tigris. Literally "mid river land", but it refers to those two rivers. South East Mesopotamia was ancient Babylonia (in itself subdivided into Sumer and Akkad, South and North) and it is about mid Iraq. North West Mesopotamia was ancient Assyria, and it straddles, much like modern concept of Kurdistan, the countries Iraq, Turkey and Syria. Göbekli Tepe is in Turkey in the NW corner of a plain which is mostly in Syria - and on which you find a tower at Harran, just at the frontier, on the Turkish side. I do not know if Harran is archaeologically speaking as old as Göbekli Tepe, though.
We would exspect that the account of the project as such was hushed up, involving to the public technology loss. We would expect the Biblical description could read as something else but also now we have rockets in hindsight be compatible with rocketry:
and a tower, the top whereof may reach to heaven: (from Genesis 11:4)
A skyrocket and a tower are physically alike, insofar as both have more than one level and the total added height of all levels outdoes the breadth of any level. A skyrocket is in that sense closer to a classical tower than a ziggurat is (not to mention all ziggurats in Iraq are too late, related to post-Hebrew languages like Sumerian). And they are unlike insofar as the reaching is a movement, and only the top level gets into space, of a rocket. And the Bible only mentioned the top as planned to go into heaven (there are bad translations, but Greek akmé and Latin culmen mean top).
We would expect civilisations to keep the astronomic preparatory work for it, which civilisation after civilisation does, even in Stonehenge and Nabta Playa.
We would expect at least one to experiment in rocket fuels, which China did for firework rockets, on a safer level.
We would expect, if Trent says when all Church Fathers agree, they are right, that a story of a static tower of skyscraper type would not be uniting all of them. We would also expect that some versions (even if with such a skyscraper), do tell of a project to conquer heaven.
And if the project had any likeness to Roddenberry's fantasy Star Trek, we might expect to see a warning signal about Star Trek - as we do. Respell it in Welsh, STARTREC = 616 in ASCII Code (it could have been worse, it was not 666).
We would expect at least one civilisation to dream of heros taken up to the stars - as the Greeks did. The one part of the Perseus legend that Justin martyr condemned as a diabolic lie was Perseus and Andromeda being taken up to become stars in Heaven.
We could expect some guilt after the adverse judgement of Heaven in the dispersion to come through, even if projected. If Nimrod had become a giant (whatever that means) why not project it on giants? Which, again : the Greeks, we find in Gigantomachia about giants piling Ossa and Pelion (a two storey tower) to conquer Mount Olympus.
If Nimrod had a certain rocket fuel in mind, be it even a very bad one, like Uranium, we might expect a hint of Uranium to show up in some old culture, as Mahabharata includes references to "like the light of a thousand suns" (quoted by Oppenheimer at the atomic explosion he arranged) or like the mice carrying nuclear pollution leading to loss of hair and bleeding from nails. (I take this is from a pre-Flood war including nukes, thus of Nod, not of India, though the coordinates may be similar or same).
I may of course have missed implications of my theory, and they may of course be implications contradicted by some fact. So, feel free to point out any.
Hans Georg Lundahl
St. Apollinaris of Ravenna
Ravennae natalis sancti Apollinaris Episcopi, qui, ab Apostolo Petro Romae ordinatus et Ravennam missus, pro fide Christi diversas et multiplices poenas perpessus est; postea, Evangelium in Aemilia praedicans, plurimos ab idolorum cultu revocavit; tandem, Ravennam reversus, gloriosum martyrium, sub Vespasiano Caesare, complevit.
[Svenskar kunna notera att det äfven är Sancta Birgittas dödsdag, men ej hennes fest.]
PS : If Babel of Genesis 11 had the double name Bab-El for adherents and Babel for opponents, we can expect some kind of connection to later city or cities so doubly named. If not identity (Göbekli Tepe is 37°13′23″N by 38°55′21″E, while archaeological site of Babylon is 32°32′11″N by 44°25′15″E, so not the same), at least a fittingness (Babylon is nearly due SE of Göbekli Tepe, each direction more than 5° and less than 6° removed)./HGL