Friday, May 6, 2022

The Real Crime of Tyndale : Justification without Intending Subsequent Works

Takeaways : he wasn't finally burnt for translating the Bible, and leaving the harlot is not leaving Roman Catholicism. Quora question and exhchange below my answer.

Did the Catholic Church burn William Tyndale at the stake? What crime did he commit?

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Catholic convert, reading many Catechisms
Answered Feb 9, 2021

  • He translated the Bible to English;
  • He translated “presbyteros” as “elder” instead of “priest” in the Bible;
  • something else.

His Bible, with faults in translation, like those noted and alas defended by Kathleen Neuen, was not the cause of his burning, but of his exile from England;

Once he was taken before the Spanish Inquisition in Netherlands, he was in fact tried and executed for something else, namely, how he interpreted Romans 3.

His Inquisitor Jacobus Latomus had a correspondence with him, and we know from his preserved answers that Romans 3 was the key issue.

EDIT : it is Latomus’ answers to Tyndale that are preserved.

Nate Van Mack
Catholic Church wanted power over the masses, Tyndale translating the Bible into English would give them all the info to see how far off the church had gone from the truth. They didn't want that so they premeditated his murder, him as well as countless others in wars etc Catholic organization is the most corrupt on the planet for centuries. They have no unity. Complete opposite of Jesus who taught to love others. That's why Rev 18:4,5 says;

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind

God will completely annihilate all false religion very soon that have brought reproach on his holy name JEHOVAH, YHWH TETRAGRAMMETON

Hans-Georg Lundahl
"Catholic Church wanted power over the masses,"

Christ's Church should want power over the masses. See Matthew 28 "teach YE all nations".

This was usually not opposed to but went hand in hand with encouraging if secondary at least extant translations to the vernacular languages.

Like in Belgium, back then [Spanish] Netherlands where Tyndale was burned, there was a Catholic Bible translation, like Delftse Bijbel of the Vulgate OT excluding the Psalms, and from John Scutkens Historiebijbel, they had also printed Gospels and Epistles.

As said, Tyndale fled from England due to translating into vernacular, which could have landed him in trouble with the English Inquisition (decided by the Parliament in 1401), but he was burned in a country where the Catholic Church did support or very recently had supported Bible translations, and where translating the Bible was not in itself a charge of heresy : in the then Spanish possession of the Netherlands.

"Tyndale translating the Bible into English"

Was an offense in England, but not in Belgium.

"would give them all the info to see how far off the church had gone from the truth."

Yeah, English peasants were generally so well educated overall, that just giving them a printed Bible was going to reveal things to them, even without comment! Not.

Also, the Bible contains proof that "the Church had gone from the Truth" : also NOT. On the contrary, according to Matthew 28, She cannot. See "all days".

As for getting out of a certain harlot, whatever the identity of the harlot is, it is NOT the Catholic Church as historically known, and leaving the harlot is NOT joining Protestantism, which in its Puritan and most Anticatholic form is simply one of the four leopard heads.

A Seven Headed Beast ...

Please note, the seven heads being seven kings means there are individual people in the appropriate part of the end times, but the kings having kingdoms, and religion and politics being intertwined (both on Christ's and on Antichrist's side), the identifications I gave would be fairly good. If I were to join you, I would apostasise and be joining a leopard beast, in one of its four heads. That I will not do.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
If you or yours were to come to see the truth, I think a safer place to convert to Catholicism would be with this guy:

The Pope Speaks - Vatican in Exile

than with these guys:

Members - Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops

It seems I published this on the wrong blog, should have been Assorted Retorts. Obviously, the subject matter as such is here too, but the format goes to the other one.

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