Back into the Middle Ages

1) Genealogy, concerning the King of Spain during US War of Independence, Carlos III · 2) Perhaps I should have written abavi instead of atavi in previous ... · 3) Back into the Middle Ages · 4) How Many Died Young Around 1500?

• Two couples further back:
  
  
• 8 to Louis XIV of France, Antoine of Navarre, Born 22 April 1518 La Fère, Picardy, France; Died 17 November 1562 (aged 44) Les Andelys, Eure
• 9 to Louis XIV of France, Jeanne d'Albret, Born 16 November 1528 Saint-Germain-en-Laye, France; Died 9 June 1572 (aged 43) Paris
  
  
• 14 to Benedicta Henrietta of the Palatinate, Charles, Duke of Mayenne, Born 26 March 1554 Alençon; Died 3 October 1611 (aged 57) Soissons
• 15 to Benedicta Henrietta of the Palatinate, Enriqueta de Saboya-Villars (1541-1611)
  
  
• 1 Antoine of Navarre
  
  
• parentes
• 2 Charles, Duke of Vendôme, Born 2 June 1489 Château de Vendôme, France; Died 25 March 1537 (aged 47) Amiens, France
• 3 Françoise d'Alençon, Born 1490; Died 14 September 1550 La Flèche
  
  
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• 4 Francis, Count of Vendôme, Born 1470; Died 30 October 1495 Vercelli
• 5 Marie of Luxembourg, Countess of Vendôme, Born c. 1472; Died 1 April 1547 La Fère
• 6 René, Duke of Alençon, (1454 – 1 November 1492, Chateau d'Alençon, age 37–38),
• 7 Margaret of Lorraine (1463, castle of Vaudémont, Lorraine- 2 November 1521 in Argentan, Normandy) was Duchess of Alençon, and a nun of the order of Poor Clares (Ordre des Clarisses). She was beatified in 1921. Beatified 1921 March 10, Rome by Pope Benedict XV Feast November 2.
  
  
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• 8 John VIII, Count of Vendôme, Born 1425; Died 6 January 1478 Lavardin
• 9 Isabelle de Beauvau (1436 circa – 1476)
• 10 Peter II, Count of Saint-Pol, Born c. 1440; Died 25 October 1482 Enghien
• 11 Margaret of Savoy, Countess of Saint-Pol, Born April 1439 Turin, Italy; Died 9 March 1483 Bruges
• 12 Jean II, Duke of Alençon, Born 2 March 1409 Château d'Argentan; Died 8 September 1476 (aged 67) Paris
• 13 Marie of Armagnac, Born 1420; Died 25 July 1473 Cloister Mortagne-au-Perche
• 14 Frederick II, Count of Vaudémont, Born c. 1428; Died 31 August 1470, Joinville
• 15 Yolande, Duchess of Lorraine, Born 2 November 1428 Nancy; Died 23 March 1483 (aged 54) Nancy
  
  
• 1 Jeanne d'Albret
  
  
• parentes
• 2 Henry II of Navarre, Born 18 April 1503 Sangüesa; Died 25 May 1555 (aged 52) Hagetmau
• 3 Marguerite de Navarre, Born 11 April 1492 Angoulême, France; Died 21 December 1549 (aged 57) Odos, France
  
  
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• 4 John III of Navarre, Born 1469; Died 14 June 1516
• 5 Catherine of Navarre, Born 1468; Died 12 February 1517
• 6 Charles, Count of Angoulême, Born 1459; Died 1 January 1496
• 7 Louise of Savoy, (11 September 1476 – 22 September 1531) was a French noblewoman, Duchess suo jure of Auvergne and Bourbon, Duchess of Nemours, and the mother of King Francis I of France. She was politically active and served as the Regent of France in 1515, in 1525–1526 and in 1529. Born 11 September 1476 Pont-d'Ain; Died 22 September 1531 (aged 55) Grez-sur-Loing
  
  
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• 8 Alain I of Albret (1440-1522), called "The Great", was a powerful French aristocrat. He was 16th Lord of Albret, Viscount of Tartas, the 2nd Count of Graves and the Count of Castres. He was the son of Catherine de Rohan and Jean I of Albret.[1] He was the grandson and heir of Charles II of Albret, and became head of the House of Albret in 1471.
• 9 Francisca van Châtillon (Françoise de Châtillon) (-1481) was een dochter van Willem, jongere zoon van Jan I van Châtillon en Isabella van La Tour d'Auvergne.
• 10 Gaston, Prince of Viana, Gaston, Prince of Viana, also called Gaston de Foix (1444 – 23 November 1470), was the son of Gaston IV of Foix and Eleanor of Navarre, and was the heir of both. As a Prince of Navarre, he was called Prince of Viana. (I think it was his death in a tournament which provoked the ban on tournaments).
• 11 Magdalena of France, Born 1 December 1443 Tours; Died 21 January 1495 (aged 51) Pamplona
• 12 John of Orléans, Count of Angoulême and of Périgord (French: Jean d'Orléans, comte d'Angoulême, 26 June 1399 – 30 April 1467), was a younger son of Louis I, Duke of Orléans, and Valentina Visconti, and a grandson of Charles V of France. He was the younger brother of the noted poet, Charles, Duke of Orléans, and grandfather of Francis I of France. Born 28 June 1399; Died 30 April 1467 (aged 67) Cognac
• 13 Margarita (1412 - 1497 en Cognac), que contrae matrimonio el 31 de agosto de 1449 con Juan de Orleans conde de Angulema y duque de Milán; y un segundo matrimonio con Gilles II de Montmorency-Laval, señor de Loué y vizconde de Brosse.
• 14 Philip II, Duke of Savoy, Born 5 February 1438 Château de Chambéry, Savoy, France; Died 7 November 1497 (aged 59) Château de Chambéry, Savoy, France
• 15 Margaret of Bourbon, Born 5 February 1438; Died 24 April 1483 (aged 45)
  
  
• M 25 26 36 37 42 42 44 47 47 53 52 59 67 67 82
• F 40 43 43 45 51 53 54 54 55 57 58 60 75 85 ??
• O 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15
  
  
• 1 Charles, Duke of Mayenne
  
  
• parentes:
• 2 Francis, Duke of Guise, Born 17 February 1519 Bar-le-Duc (Lorraine); Died 24 February 1563 (aged 44)
• 3 Anna d'Este, Born 16 November 1531, Ferrara, Italy; Died 17 May 1607 (aged 75), Paris, France
  
  
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• 4 Claude, Duke of Guise, Born 20 October 1496 Château de Condé-sur-Moselle; Died 12 April 1550 (aged 53) Château de Joinville
• 5 Antoinette de Bourbon (25 December 1493 – 22 January 1583) was a French noblewoman of the House of Bourbon. She was the wife of Claude de Lorraine, Duke of Guise. Through her eldest daughter, Mary of Guise, Queen consort of King James V of Scotland, she was the maternal grandmother of Mary, Queen of Scots. Born 25 December 1493 Chateau de Ham, Somme department, Picardy, France; Died 22 January 1583 (aged 89) Chateau de Joinville
• 6 Ercole II d'Este, Duke of Ferrara, Born 5 April 1508; Died 3 October 1559 (aged 51) Ferrara
• 7 Renée of France, Renée of France[1] (25 October 1510[2] – 12 June 1574[3]), was the younger surviving child of Louis XII of France and Anne of Brittany. She was the Duchess of Ferrara due to her marriage to Ercole II d'Este, grandson of Pope Alexander VI.[4] In her later life she became an important supporter of the Protestant reformation and ally of John Calvin. Born 25 October 1510 Château de Blois; Died 12 June 1574 (aged 63) Château de Montargis
  
  
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• 8 René II, Duke of Lorraine, Born 2 May 1451 Angers; Died 10 December 1508 (aged 57) Fains
• 9 Philippa of Guelders, Born 9 November 1467 Grave; Died 28 February 1547 (aged 79) Convent of Poor Clares of Pont-à-Mousson
• 10 = 4 to Antoine de Navarre
• 11 = 5 to Antoine de Navarre
• 12 Alfonso I d'Este, Duke of Ferrara, Born 21 July 1476 Subiaco, Italy; Died 31 October 1534 (aged 58) Ferrara
• 13 Lucrezia Borgia, Born 18 April 1480 Subiaco, Italy; Died 24 June 1519 (aged 39) Ferrara
• 14 Louis XII of France, Born 27 June 1462 Château de Blois; Died 1 January 1515 (aged 52) Hôtel des Tournelles; Burial Saint Denis Basilica
• 15 Anne of Brittany (Breton: Anna; 25/26 January 1477[1] – 9 January 1514[2]) was a French queen who reigned as Duchess of Brittany from 1488 until her death. Born 25/26 January 1477 Nantes, Brittany; Died 9 January 1514 (aged 36) Blois, France; Burial Saint Denis Basilica
  
  
• 1 Enriqueta de Saboya-Villars (1541-1611)
  
  
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• 2 Honorat II of Savoy, marquis of Villars (4 June 1511 - 20 September 1580, Le Grand-Pressigny) was a marshal of France and admiral of France.
• 3 Jeanne Françoise de Foix, viscountess of Castillon (†1542) // Jeanne Françoise de Foix Birthdate: estimé(e) entre 1478 et 1538 Death: (Date and location unknown) - Probably false entry, she was probably born 1478 and died either 1538 or 1542.
  
  
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• 4 René of Savoy (1473 – 31 March 1525) was a French nobleman and soldier. He was count of Villars (1497) and of Tende (1501). Known as "the Great Bastard of Savoy", he was the illegitimate son of Philip II, Duke of Savoy and Libera Portoneri - this made him the originator of the Savoie-Villars (or Savoie-Tende) branch of the House of Savoy.
• 5 Anne Lascaris (November 1487 – July 1554), countess of Tende and of Villars, was a French noblewoman. She was the daughter of Jean-Antoine II de Lascaris, comte de Tende and of Vintimille, lord of Marro, Prela and Menton, and his wife Isabeau (or Isabelle) d'Anglure. At 11 and a half years old, Anne married Louis de Clermont-Lodève, then on 28 January 1501 she married René of Savoy. With no male heirs, Anne inherited her father's titles on his death on 13 August 1509.
• 6 Alain de Foix Birthdate: estimé(e) entre 1453 et 1513 Death: (Date and location unknown) ??
• 7 Françoise de Montpezat Birthdate: estimé(e) entre 1425 et 1545 Death: (Date and location unknown) ??
  
  
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• 8 = 14 to Antoine de Navarre
• 9 Libera Portoneri (mistress)
• 10 Giovanni Antonio II Lascaris 1460 13 agosto 1509 figlio di Onorato I, sposa Isabella d'Anglure dei visconti d'Estoges. La figlia naturale Caterina sposa Eleonor Lascaris di Chateauneuf e Conio.
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• 12 Gaston de Foix Birthdate: circa 1448 Birthplace: Foix, Ariege, , France; Death: Died 25 mars 1500 in Bearn, France
• 13 Isabel d'Albret Birthdate: estimé(e) entre 1457 et 1503; Death: (Date and location unknown)
• 14 Guy de Montpezat Birthdate: estimé(e) entre 1389 et 1509 Death: Died 1520 [Fils de Charles de Montpezat et Jeanne de Roquefeuil (Roquefeuil = later Calvinist = later emigrated to US, Rockefellers)]
• 15 Jeanne de Mareuïl Birthdate: estimé(e) entre 1455 et 1511 Death: (Date and location unknown)
  
  
• M 44 51 51 51 52 53 57 57 58
• F 36 39 60 63 66 75 79 89 ??
• O 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09
  
  
• M, 44 - 58, median 52
• F, 36 - 89, median 63/66
  
  
• Total for both sides:
  
  
• M 25 26 36 37 42 42 44 44 47 47 51 51 51 52 52 53 53 57 57 58 59 67 67 82
• F 36 39 40 43 43 45 51 53 54 54 55 57 58 60 60 63 66 75 75 79 85 89
• O 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
  
  
• M 25 - 82, median 51, l q 42/44, h q 57
• F 36 - 89, median 55/57, l q 45, h q 66
  
  
• Time : 1409 to 1611 in this cut out.
  
  
• Sources, as usual wikipedia, mostly, but also (not very helpful as to dates, but as to names), George J. Homs on geni.com